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Ummm....that would be the EP 500 and OMG, if that was $700 I would buy 2. 
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or maybe they are planning an upgrade to the 350 with the digital amps and that will be in the $700 price range. ( a man can dream can't he)
They were playing with that concept when I was at the factory as it makes sense to have all of the same style amps in all of the products. But, cost/performance and overlapping of products are all factors...
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The EP400 was produced to fill a specific need that was being requested of us over and over. This was to pack real sub-woofer performance into the smallest possible enclosure. It was not created to be a cheaper version of the EP500 and in fact if you do not have any concern over the enclosure size then the EP500 would be the way to go. If our goal was to bring out a less expensive EP500 then we would definitely utilize a larger enclosure. Adding to enclosure size is an inexpensive way (to a point) of boosting a sub’s performance without having to spend more on the sub’s amp and driver technologies. So really are you asking us if we could revisit the EP350 and see if we could boost its performance by adding about $50 to the selling price? That sounds like it might be a good idea.
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The EP400 was produced to fill a specific need that was being requested of us over and over. This was to pack real sub-woofer performance into the smallest possible enclosure. It was not created to be a cheaper version of the EP500 and in fact if you do not have any concern over the enclosure size then the EP500 would be the way to go. If our goal was to bring out a less expensive EP500 then we would definitely utilize a larger enclosure. Adding to enclosure size is an inexpensive way (to a point) of boosting a sub’s performance without having to spend more on the sub’s amp and driver technologies. So really are you asking us if we could revisit the EP350 and see if we could boost its performance by adding about $50 to the selling price? That sounds like it might be a good idea.
If you get get the 350 to a price point where its performance rivals its competitors in the same price range, I think more people would opt for the 350. Sort of a less powerfull EP500, goes down to 20hz but not nearly as loud as the EP500. I am not sure of how the logistics work with how much things cost so I am not sure how that would work.
If increasing the cabinet size of the 350 would allow it to extend down to 20hz, I think you would have a real winner.
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The EP400 was produced to fill a specific need that was being requested of us over and over. This was to pack real sub-woofer performance into the smallest possible enclosure. It was not created to be a cheaper version of the EP500 and in fact if you do not have any concern over the enclosure size then the EP500 would be the way to go. If our goal was to bring out a less expensive EP500 then we would definitely utilize a larger enclosure. Adding to enclosure size is an inexpensive way (to a point) of boosting a sub’s performance without having to spend more on the sub’s amp and driver technologies. So really are you asking us if we could revisit the EP350 and see if we could boost its performance by adding about $50 to the selling price? That sounds like it might be a good idea.
If you get get the 350 to a price point where its performance rivals its competitors in the same price range, I think more people would opt for the 350. Sort of a less powerfull EP500, goes down to 20hz but not nearly as loud as the EP500. I am not sure of how the logistics work with how much things cost so I am not sure how that would work.
If increasing the cabinet size of the 350 would allow it to extend down to 20hz, I think you would have a real winner. Just look at the SVS PB-12...that thing is a monster and it has had great ratings from sub enthusiasts, people are willing buy a bigger sized sub for cheaper to get better performance.
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Adding to enclosure size is an inexpensive way (to a point) of boosting a sub’s performance without having to spend more on the sub’s amp and driver technologies. So really are you asking us if we could revisit the EP350 and see if we could boost its performance by adding about $50 to the selling price? That sounds like it might be a good idea.
Actually, you guy's may be on to something. How many times have we heard "I'm in a small appartment/townhouse now, but at the next house......." OR, "I'd love the 500 but I don't have the funds......"
Isn't the EP350 already using the driver from the 500? Why not just use the 500's enclosure as well? This will cut down having to build 2 separate boxes, and should only bump up the cost minimally. Keep the existing amp, but give the option of upgrading to the EP500 amp down the road.
This allows the person to "up" the performance of their system without having to swap out the entire sub.
Shawn
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[Sitting here patting self on back and feeling good, just waiting for the scientists of the group to tear it apart]  
Shawn
Epic 80/600 + M3's + M3 Algonquins + M2 Computer + EP125
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Not to doom this train of thought but to my mind it makes sense. EP350 Subwoofer Dimensions HWD inches : 19.5" x 15" x 15" 200 Watts EP500 Subwoofer Dimensions HWD inches : 19.5" x 15" x 19.5" 500 Watts What IF, as real80sman suggested, the 350 moved up to the 500's enclosure but kept it's 200 Watt Amp, that could be upgradeable to the 500's amp at a later date? This would mean one less enclosure size for Axiom to build and a very easy upgrade path for us customers. Consider this a pat on the back, now we can wait for reality to set in  .
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Well if they start selling the amp with DSP separately, could the DSP profile be modified via the usb port to accomodate DIY enclosures. That would be cool to the DIY crowd, but not sure how big that crowd is. I built a couple subwoofer enclosures for the trunk of my car, and even had one in my living room way back, but today I want something that has the refined axiom look to it Randy
Axiom M80, Ep600, Qs8, VP150, Crown XLI 2500 , DBX Driverack PA2, Focusrite Scarlet 2i4
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I'd be afraid to let the DIYer do anything with my tech. "OmGzz!!1!one! Teh Axion amp sux0rs i made a totaly pro sub boxthing out of cardbored an it sounds like siht compaired to my freinds kikker in his ford fokus"  Bren R.
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