Re: Subwoofer shopping again!
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I know spiff has been able to mesh his VTF-2 and Axioms well....and he also lives in an apartment.
At low listening levels, I do not think you will hear much difference in any of those subs, but it would make for an interesting test. Because I have heard the VTF-2 and what it can do, that is what I would recommend.
The new STF series also looks very promising. In talking with Hsu Research the other day, Dr. Hsu says the driver in the STF-10 is just as good as the driver in the VTF-2. I heard the STF-8, that thing did well with LOTR, I would not hesitate using that in a small room.
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Re: Subwoofer shopping again!
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Marcus, on your "low listening level" question that you're especially interested in, there's no sub that somehow has a special advantage over other similar subs when the level is low. Due to the Fletcher-Munson effect both low and high frequencies sound less prominent in relation to the mid-range as the level gets lower. Changing subs can't change this; to make the sub louder at low levels you increase the sub level setting.. All of the subs you're considering are excellent(if you go with the 25-31, ask Tom to custom-tune it to 22hz at no extra charge, which results in a little more extension and a little less "punch", which is all to the good), but unless you clear up whatever problem you had with setting up the Athena you may still be disappointed.
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Re: Subwoofer shopping again!
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Did you say "record player"? I haven't heard that phrase in years.
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Made my choice and ordered the 25-31 PCi. Thanks for the advice....although I think I had my decision made already. Just wanted to make sure there wasnt a compelling reason not to get the 25-31 PCi or something that made another sub stand out above the rest.
Shall we start taking bets on how long before I am asking to turn it down by my fellow apt dwellers?
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'true bass' is not nearly as annoying as over-emphasized 'mid-bass' -- you know the kind you hear coming out of that annoying car next to you at the stop light or gas station? That kind of bass warrants a immediate phone call.
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Boomy mid-bass -- the next-door neighbor will call you, complaining.
True bass -- the neighbor will call 911, scared.
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Re: Subwoofer shopping again!
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Well, If my very recent expirence (about an hour ago, after having the sub hooked up for 10 min) is to be used as an example, I give you about 3 seconds - it took my neighbor, who is 20' away, with trees and a 5 foot fence in between, about 5-10 seconds to cruise over and see what the hell I was killing...
A link to the post at avs if you are interested: Chat session with curtis
Happy subbing! FYI - I have the SVS PC+ 20-39
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Re: Subwoofer shopping again!
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What would be the recommendation between the SVS 25-31 PCi (with the custom tuning suggested by JohnK to 22Hz) and the SVS 20-39 PCi. If the performance is almost similar, then the (22)-31 seems better since it is shorter height while also getting some real lows ??
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Re: Subwoofer shopping again!
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The main advantage of the 25-31 over the 20-39 is that it is capable of higher SPLs.
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If you are an organ music lover (like me) who likes the 16Hz low-C pedal tone, go with the 20-39 or whatever maximum-extension model. Or even better, go with the SVS PB2-Plus or Hsu VTF-3, which both feature a variable port tuning.
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