Re: Help choosing an in-wall component rack/shelf.
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Thanks, Chris. I've ordered speaker wire from them before, and am happy with it, but was rather surprised how much cheaper it was at Monoprice. I found an interesting discussion on AVS regarding "Monoprice vs. Blue Jean Cables". It turned into somewhat of a heated discussion between two AVS club members. Surprisingly, Kurt, who is the owner of Blue Jean Cables, adds to the discussion. I was very surprised with his response; he seems like an honest, respectable, business person. Here it is.
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I commented, not even really a complaint, about the build quality of one optical cable I got from Blue Jeans (it could have done with a little extra trimming, which I did myself) to Blue Jeans' support e-mail address. I got an e-mail back from Kurt, saying thanks for pointing out the issue. I was surprised the owner would take the time.
But yeah, there's really no difference in speaker cable (although their Canare 4S11, star quad is really nice, if you don't mind the garden hose size). It's the coax, and HDMI that is really well designed. I just buy their speaker cable too, because I like to support such a nice and honest company.
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Garden hose size is cool.
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I'm still reading through that AVS thread. Someone just mentioned something important. I don't know how it is in Canada, but in the US wire run through walls must be CL rated. Blue Jeans states plainly which wire they sell is rated, and at what level.
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Oh, I knew this, but must have forgot. Canare is a Japanese company. Belden is American (not Belkin, which is Indian). Most everything Blue Jeans sells is based around Belden stock.
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Both the Monoprice and Blue Jeans cables will pass a signal just fine. If you are on a strict budget, then Monoprice is the obvious choice. Blue Jeans offers superior build quality (connectors especially) on their coax and HDMI and in some cases are "over built" for some home use applications. With robustness comes with it the tradeoff of stiffness and having BJC's best HDMI and 10 awg speaker wire, flexibility can be a problem. For professional use I would strictly use Blue Jeans cable for everything.
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The in-wall rating in Canada is FT4 which is essentially the same as CL2. The FT4 rating only concerns vertical fire spread times, IIRC. CL2 deals with toxicity as well. If I remember a CL2 rating is slightly less than an FT4, a CL3 is pretty much the same. Found this handy page: http://www.awcwire.com/techlibrary/16.17.pdf
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Later on I plan on running 3.5 mm mono cables from the Logitech wireless extender to each component I need controlled; that way I can put the RF extender hidden in the cabinet. Until then, I just have to place it within line of sight of the cabinet, which shouldn't be a problem. When I ran signal wire for an IR repeater I used 22/4 wire from Home Depot (only need 3 conductors). My repeater has screw terminals, so it was cheap and easy and you can customize for exact length. I'm also using a 40' Monoprice HDMI cable and it works great. Note that it is pretty thick, so it has limited flexibility if you've got tight corners.
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Hey guys, Well, after two days of work, my best friend and I have finished the first stage of my in-wall cabinet. I still have to get my cables and run them through the ceiling, do some cable management, close off the back of the cabinet, and put the aluminum face plates and trim on the front; but here's some pictures we took as we went. Thank you very much for everyone's help. If you guys have any suggestions, fire away! First picture-I haven't shown any pictures of my room because there's a couple things that aren't finished (like the fuse panel in the picture), but here's a teaser showing the cabinet that used to house my components. It's actually really beautiful, with glass shelves and wooden legs that match my speaker finish, but as you can see, the cables are messy. Cabinet framed up and drywall cut out- Back- Front trimmed- Shelves-
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