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Rebulx, there's a problem here that needs to be solved. None of my v4 are as you describe. They are more room-filling and satisfying than v2. All my drivers pump like crazy!
Can you confirm you have them playing full range? By that I mean not crossed over to a sub.
Your room is tiny for any of those speakers. Once this is solved, you and your lady will be losing your balance given the sound pressure.
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I've played around with the settings but have them set to an 80hz cross over as prescribed. Are you recommending they are set to "Large"?
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Set them to large for now so that we can see if we can get the drivers moving.
Also check polarity to make sure + is + and - is -. If polarity is wrong, bass will definitely be impacted.
If the yammy has a 4 or 6 ohm setting, set to 6 ohm.
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I've been doing manual setups lately and skipping any auto room correction for the HT. If doing two channel I hit the "direct", "pure", or what ever the 2 channel "don't modify the input" button is ... I always set my speakers to large if not using sub. If using a sub then I allow the receiver to do the cross-over (setting the subs x-over out of the way ... usually 150 hz) ... then decide if large or small is appropriate for the system (i.e. large floor standing speakers like the M80 or M100 are set to large, an M22 or M3 to small. The exception on large floor standing is if the amp is marginal, like most receivers, I may set them to small and let the Sub do the low-end heavy lifting)
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That sounds like a practical way to do it.
I've found the actives are the only Axiom I've been able to play full range without Audyssey correction. Even in my largish 4200 cu ft room. Playing them full range gives me even more of the kind of mid-bass I like.
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So, first a BIG thank you for all the help mojo, and for the pointers from rrlev. Appreciate the assistance in getting things setup. I've been playing with lots of settings. I set the M5ow's back to large and went to 6 ohms but no improvement. I just have bad walls I guess, I'm putting these on the beam/frame between the kitchen and living room, as seen in previous posts. It doesn't seem to play well in that setting. Thats the destination for those speakers so it really doesn't matter if it sounds amazing on solid walls. Are the QS series as dependent on good walls? The long lost, very damaged, M80ow arrived today, a hold up in customs and over two weeks ship time and unfortunately my 15 year old son signed for it. Life lesson learned. Do not accept severally damaged packages! It's kind of funny they even tried to deliver. The box won't even stand up on it's own now. It's beaten to hell.
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Axiom will make any shipper problems right if you contact them. Is the M5 woofer moving at all? I am wondering if your yammy is having problems powering it. It's a 4 Ohm load down low. The M50 is an easy load. How long is your wire run and what gauge? One of my QS10s sounds boss and is mounted as shown.
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First and foremost... I so miss guitar hero mojo! what a great game!!! lol
It moves some, just enough to let you know it's getting power. Ian said I needed to cross over at 80hz. I don't think the on walls are designed to handle any bass. Which makes senes considering the cab size. I wasn't expecting a thumper.
Thinking about my setup and speaker placement.... Does the 10 go lower than the 5? How is the imaging compared to the 5? Are your 5's on walls? Man I miss guitar hero!
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I ODd on guitar hero about a month back. I can never be as good as my son no matter how hard I try.
I don't know man. I get great bass from my M2OW but they are in a 1900 cu ft room and they are ported. I don't have any other OW other than the M2OW and QS10 so I can't tell you how the M5OW are.
The M5 bookshelves go lower than the QS10. Maybe you need the bookshelves on FMBs. Before you go that way, chat with Ian. I still think there's some other problem. Judging by my M2OW, your M5OW, which are also ported, ought to be giving you some good bass.
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lol yeah the kids have us beat in that area!
I was advised not to expect anything below 80hz and that a good sub would provide the sound in that range.
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