Re: Ceiling speakers for my Axiom Epic 60 - 500 setup?
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Why didn't you mount the front M3s vertically? 2 reasons: Axiom told me that M3’s could only mount on FMCBs that way (even then you need custom inserts to do it) And more importantly, they are closer to the ceiling to keep them out of the projection.
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Re: Ceiling speakers for my Axiom Epic 60 - 500 setup?
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Good to see that you have a very plausible defense for their acoustically non-optimized installation.
Are the tweeters pointing in or out?
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Re: Ceiling speakers for my Axiom Epic 60 - 500 setup?
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Ill figure that out when i figure it out Right now, because Axiom only put inserts in on one side, they are not imaged. Instead of sending them back a 2nd time (1st time was because they didn’t have any of the required inserts), ill put in some inserts myself … for now, i’m not aware of (not hearing) any detrimental effects being non-imaged.
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Re: Ceiling speakers for my Axiom Epic 60 - 500 setup?
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I should add that i have not tested these for imaging (by listening to them as mains). In movies, I suspect that you get so involved, that it need not be perfect.
That said, I might not know what I’m missing if they were imaged properly.
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Re: Ceiling speakers for my Axiom Epic 60 - 500 setup?
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Hmmm...I think I understand what you mean. One tweeter will always point in and the other out. Sorry. I wouldn't be able to listen knowing that. Maybe consider burning it down and starting over.
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Re: Ceiling speakers for my Axiom Epic 60 - 500 setup?
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Hmmm...I think I understand what you mean. One tweeter will always point in and the other out. Sorry. I wouldn't be able to listen knowing that. Maybe consider burning it down and starting over. Think putting in the inserts might be the more cost effective solution . Now if I ever put in the side heights (as per DTS and Auto-3d spec) I might have to put them in as pairs (tweeters-in then tweeters-out) or figure out some a way to hang them vertically (as inserts for FMCBs would be problematic in that case). I'll save that worry for when I buy that 48 channel prepro
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For side heights, I've planned active Bryston Ts with dual 800s.
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I am wondering what would be the performance difference for the Atmos height speaker, the in ceiling M3 and the on-wall M3 mounting on the ceiling.
Axiom told me that you could just take the woofer of the M3 out, then attach it to a stub.
The in-ceiling M3 doesn't allow you to aim to the MLP. So on-wall M3 may work just as good as the in-ceiling one.
Thoughts?
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Re: Ceiling speakers for my Axiom Epic 60 - 500 setup?
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My thoughts are someone at Axiom is smoking crack. Read this and you'll feel the same way. https://www.axiomaudio.com/blog/axioms-newest-speaker-the-in-ceiling-m3Ian prefers the M3OW mounted to the ceiling over the M3IC's tweeter alignment. Mount the M3OW parallel to the row of seats and with no more of an angle of 15 degrees away from the row of seats with tweeters pointed out to the sidewalls.
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Thanks Mojo as always. In ceiling is more hidden and appealing, but for a dedicated HT room, that doesn't matter
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