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"The violin and oboe provide substantial musical energy above 40 kHz..."
Since I play oboe I guess I can comment on this point. I must say that for the the oboe to be reaching into the 40kHz range, you would likely be playing in the 3rd octave B flat and greater range. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems more in the range of the piccolo. Fortunately, most music for oboe is not primarily written in the 3rd octave. Plus I can't really recall the last time I experienced "substantial musical energy" coming from an oboe. A trumpet or piccolo maybe, but the oboe doesn't have quite that amount of projection. Just thought I'd add my $.02 from my 11+ years of playing the instrument I enjoy so much.
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Spock,
2x6 wasn't talking about the fundamental notes -- which are what is written on the page. Notes produced by woodwind instuments are composed of harmonics stacked atop one another. Some of that acoustic energy is in a range well beyond human hearing.
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pmbuko, thanks for clearing that up. Hmm....makes me wonder if somone was to use a dog whistle on a song, would there still be some who would complain that their speakers aren't producing the accoustic energy projected by a dog whistle? Plus your dog would never forgive you for such a thing.
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Hi ST. Do not put your oboe down for the dog whistel! One of the things that most speakers have great difficulty reproducing is the real sound of horns, from tubas to trumpets. What's missing? The BLATT, the rich harmonics which make a horn sound real. I'm hoping for more BLATT - more realistic music from Axioms - Axioms which outperform the $5,000 speakers. Just a hope.
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Enjoy the Music. Trust your ears. Laugh at Folks Who Claim to Know it All.
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When you say "BLATT", are you refering to the sound of attack from horns? If so, then yeah, I can definately see where speakers would have trouble producing the precise amount of attack. I'd be interested to hear how much of a difference it would make. Oh and don't worry, I don't want to learn how to play the dog whistle (penny whistle maybe). An instrument that plays (for all we know) one note would get really boring.
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That's why I've taken up the Kazoo. One note penny whistles are just so limiting.
I don't know whether the blatt is the attack or the harmonics. I know the blatt is most intense during the attack, but I don't know whether it is a function of the attack or what ... I just know it is rare that speakers capture this effect.
Enjoy the Music. Trust your ears. Laugh at Folks Who Claim to Know it All.
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My M60s have a lot of BLATT! Arturo Sandoval, David Sanborn, Miles Davis, all BLATT!
And the grills are not as fancy as... say the new ones on Polk towers. Purely functional, as is everything about the Axiom speakers; not a dime wasted on excessive non-functional decoration.
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it's also clear you couldn't restrain yourself from putting folks' ideas down, because after all, Bren, aren't you are one of those guys who already knows it all?
Hmm.. with the frequency you tell me that I do know it all, I'm starting to believe it.
Bren R.
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Hey smartypants, ease off on the brain activity, please!
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The whole "only a dog can appreciate it" line of thought took on a new dimension for me last winter. I put a set of those deer whistles on the bumper of my car. I heard nothing, but I never had a deer jump out in front of me. They worked pretty well, or so I thought.
Several times I looked in the rear view mirror to see pretty impressive herds of deer chasing me. Upon an inspection, I determined I had installed the whistles on the car backwards. I guess that gives credence to their capability.
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