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Re: Stereo amp recommendation?
#65206 10/22/04 05:20 PM
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Re: Stereo amp recommendation?
#65207 10/22/04 10:40 PM
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BTW, I don't think any of us are saying that a bigger / better amp won't make ANY difference, just that you will probably see a small, subtle improvement from the new amp versus a huge, honkin' improvement from the new sub

Enjoy !!




On the contrary I found that smaller power amps with dedicated circuitry, quality parts like short paths and high power reserves on the power supply, minimal components within give the best presentation.
For example a Creek 5350SE 85w@8ohms or the CEC 3300 amp 60w@8ohms class A or Exposure 2010 50w@8ohms or Musical Fidelity A300 150w@8ohms can present a sound with more detail, better headroom and better soundstage than my Bryston 4B 250w@8ohms. I sold my Bryston and would pick up any of the amps I mentioned which also is much cheaper than the Bryston. Actually my older Bryston 3B 125w@8ohms sounded better than my Bryston 4B.



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#65208 10/23/04 03:04 AM
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>>On the contrary I found that smaller power amps...

Well, um, that would be the "better" part of my comment...

I don't disagree. I haven't had a chance to listen to the very best amps, just "decent 200w/chan" vs. "built into the receiver" and I definitely preferred the bigger/better amp every time.

I just didn't want demasoni to buy a spiffy new amp and cut corners on the sub, when we all know he should buy that big honkin SVS that he's lusting after


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#65209 10/23/04 03:08 AM
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Re: Stereo amp recommendation?
#65210 10/23/04 03:10 AM
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>>If I must spend the money I think it's more sensible to upgrade my current M22ti to M60ti first, or just jump on the HT boat. :-)

There are just too many options, aren't there. I'm still trying to get my head around the differences between "best approach for HT" and "best approach for stereo". Even with the HK 630 (which I think has pretty good DSP code) there is still a real benefit to running in good ole stereo, mostly razor-sharp imaging and discrimination between the instruments.

The one interesting thing I noticed is that I can let the HK DSP high-pass the M2s and route all the bass to the sub (ie set 'em to "small") without seeming to hurt imaging much, while using the PSB's built-in high pass filter did seem to muck with the imaging a lot more.

Get the sub of your dreams. Be happy.


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#65211 10/23/04 03:13 AM
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>>You are now a Local .

... and damn proud of it, let me tell you !!


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Re: Stereo amp recommendation?
#65212 10/23/04 03:15 AM
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You probably rarely push more than 5 watts while listening to your M22s. If the first watt isn't great, who cares about how many more there are behind it?


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#65214 10/23/04 04:01 AM
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I just didn't want demasoni to buy a spiffy new amp and cut corners on the sub, when we all know he should buy that big honkin SVS that he's lusting after




I totally agree with you. A sub in his setup would immensely improve his setup. I was just putting my 2 cents about amps that I have auditioned over the years.

Re: Stereo amp recommendation?
#65215 10/23/04 05:56 AM
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ok...as for the crossover, I really hope the highpass filter from SVS sub wouldn't mess with the sound quality, if the imaging is going to suffer then I'll either bite the bullet and build one myself, or forget about the highpass and run the M22ti at full range.

Dang it, is my sub here yet?!?!? I can't help but keep checking my email for shipping confirmation with tracking number :-)

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