Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding comparison !
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After my badgering, harassing, haranguing and generally being a pest to them both, Alan and Amie have agreed to an Axiom Approved blind listening test. The players will be M80's, Rocket 850's and Paradigm Studio 60 or 100 V.3's ...
Alan has also offered to build a speaker switching box which will allow precise level matching for three pairs of speakers.
This will be a somewhat "open" event, hopefully with some owners of each company's products here for some serious blind listening.
Thanks to Alan and Amie, and Jack gets the nomination to post this on the AV123 site.
Once I get a pair of Paradigms secured, we will also start a thread on AVS ...
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Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding comparison !
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Whooooo!!!!!
They might just have to take that show on the road!
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Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding comparison !
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Seabear - This show IS on the road ... In Erie, Pennsylvania, to be exact. I am buying the M80's just for this test. (of course, having M80's will be pretty cool, too) ... and hopefully we will get a few audiophiles to attend. I am waiting to hear back from a couple of Paradigm dealers to make sure THEY can and will participate.
And ALL listening tests will be blind, with notes taken and preferences stated publicly BEFORE each person on the listening panel knows which speaker he/she was auditioning....
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"And ALL listening tests will be blind, with notes taken and preferences stated publicly BEFORE each person on the listening panel knows which speaker he/she was auditioning.... "
Well, that certainly speaks of what all of the participants think about their products.
And How Brave they all are!
;-)
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Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding comparison !
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i dont think erie is that far away from me let me know when it is.
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Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding comparison !
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Snakeyes ... will do. Where do you live ?
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Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding comparison !
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Well, I'm VERY happy this has worked out. I'm surprised at the RS850s being included. I thought the original plan was for the RS1000s to be the entry from av123. However, in retrospect, since the 1000s (1ks) have a powered 8" woofer (NOT subwoofer), the 850s seem a more equitable choice.
I don't have any experience with the Paradigms, nor have I heard the M80s. But I'm very familiar with the M80s nearly identical sibling, the M60s, and with the 850s. I can attest to the excellence of both. And, from what I've heard about the Paradigms, I would not be surprised to find this whole thing will simply come down to personal preference, as ALL of the entrants are above average speakers.
I would like to emphasize, right at the beginning, that it is my fervent hope, and belief, that nobody should get bent out of shape over the results. If this is indeed, a blind listening test only, the conclusions reached can be no more, nor less, than "speaker A was preferred over speaker B and speaker C, by more in THIS GROUP of people, and in THIS particular room. Doesn't mean that YOU would agree, or that the results would be the same in YOUR room.
So it is my request that we all just relax and enjoy the fun.
Jack
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Re: Kudos to Alan, another floorstanding comparison !
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Yeah, I'm with you. Hopefully personal biases won't result in some mudslinging. I'm always interested in reading about comparisons between speakers. It is easier to judge how a speaker sounds (and to learn how a speaker sounds) in direct comparison to another. Gives you a point of reference. I look forward to the results. Thanks, guys!
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In reply to:
Jack gets the nomination to post this on the AV123 site.
I respectfully decline the nomination. I'm too verbose!
Jack
"People generally quarrel because they cannot argue." - G. K. Chesterton
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It is pretty hard for people to state preferences during a blind test then decide later there was something wrong with the test conditions ... When someone who claims a major superiority of "his speakers" refuses to participate in a blind test, it is a clear sign that person is afraid he might "lose" ...
In other words, He takes life TOO seriously...
OH ... and in regards to the 850's, I will either use my current RS-1K's with the woofers unplugged, or buy a pair of 850's ...
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