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I just checked the 5000 specs. It shouldn't have any problem whatsoever driving the M80s...unless Outlaw delivered you a lemon amp.

Outlaws and M80's have a long successful history together, don't they?

Anyway, it will be a week or two before I can test your theory as I already switched the two pairs of speakers and so it will take some negotiating to get my wife to help again

If the M80s work with just the NAD - and I assume they do because that's what you were running prior to the Outlaw - then it means the Outlaw is hosed when it has to deal with the M80s.

Make sure the shorting bar on the speaker terminals is tight.

You can try turning the volume down too.

One thing you can try is to use your bass adjustment to cut the bass. If there's no distortion with the bass attenuated, that validates my theory.

Well, no voodoo shit there. Good artists!

The only thing I can think of is that the Outlaw is running out of current and the output is distorting. The M80v2 is a 4 Ohm load down low with half of those Ohms being inductive.

Ya I was wrong about the CD. Wishful thinking I guess. The Cd I was playing was Shelby Lynne Just a Little Loving and then Robert Plant and Alison Krause Raising Sand. Both have some really deep bass . Anyway I isolated all of my components one at a time, unhooked the new amp, switched out the receiver, used a DVD player instead of my CD player, all with no improvements. Then I swapped out the M80's with my Paradigm Reference Studio 100's and they were able to handle the CDs with the NAD receiver and the new amp.

Why would the M80's (v2) just not be able to produce those LFE's without rattling etc? Are the M80's damaged? Both of them? They sounded great other than those really low notes that they clearly couldn't handle.

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How the hell can that be? What kind of voodoo shit do you listen to?

Well here is an update. It looks like it was just a certain CD that I was playing. Hopefully that is all it was. Seems to be working well now.

Try another source if you have one … or another amp if you have one. Also you could try a single channel at a time … say the left channel out of your receiver and see if it plays cleanly though any of the outlaw amp channels.

Yes I am using RCA cables (Amazon Essentials) for the preamp/amp connection. The RCA switches on the amp all are set to RCA.

Hmmm, I just remembered, this is a B-Stock amp (refurbished) from the Outlaw website. Maybe its the amp? They said it was bench tested for full operations.

Looking at the manuals nothing obvious pops out. Have you tried using a different channel on the Outlaw? And I'd try a different RCA cable, and maybe try a digital RCA (orange) for the higher bandwidth. Oh, and try and place the cables at right angles if they cross.

Presumably you are using RCA cables for interconnection. Make sure the RCA-XLR switch on each channel is set to RCA.

Hello I have a NAD T748 avr receiver powering Axiom M80's (fronts), VP150 (center) and QS8's for surrounds. No Subwoofer. Today I added a brand new Outlaw 5000x amplifier. I am powering the Outlaw with the preouts on the NAD for the front speakers and the center. The NAD receiver powers only the surrounds.

The M80's are 4 ohms impedance. The VP 150 is 8 ohm.

The Outlaw power rating is 180 watts into 4 ohms all channels driven @0.05% distortion.

The sound with this setup is bad. Static and bad LFE distortion/vibration(?) in the woofers.

What are the steps to troubleshoot this issue?

BTW, I'd love to hear the story of the Axiom tweeter struggle from the ti days to the v4. I'd love to know all the grimy details...heh heh...

Above about 3300 Hz for that tweeter, the dome no longer behaves as a single radiator. Rather, as the frequency increases, so do the number of virtual radiators on the dome. The air pressure waves in front of the dome add constructively and destructively and make a mess of the radiation pattern.

The mesh grill and the hexagonal mylar form an acoustic lens which is used to shape the air pressure delivered into the room. The mylar (phase plug) is specifically used to boost a pressure null towards the higher end of this tweeter.

The phase plug prior to v4 was integrated into the tweeter housing in the form of a piece of black plastic. It had a round circumference instead of hexagonal. So why mylar now instead of it being integrated into the mesh as a single piece? I think by separating into two pieces, it gave Andrew more design flexibility. He could experiment with the shape of the phase plug using an inexpensive material to optimize the shape of the null and the diffraction pattern off the phase plug circumference.

The v.4 tweeters are protected by a steel or iron mesh grill that's held in place by the tweeter's magnet.

Interestingly, the grills have a hexagonal-patterned mylar layer. I assume it's there to aid in the family of curves.

BTW, a pushed in tweeter is wrecked and needs to be replaced.

I did that a few months ago. Check out the live version of I think I'm in Love with You with Dua Lipa.

Likely positively and negatively skewed with a smattering of bimodal.

Agreed. I posted on their Facebook page and directly emailed Ian....but no-one replied and it continued....sigh.

You might want to contact Axiom about the outriggers.

I never did like the material or color of the black dustcaps either.

Someone else makes the subs. The Axiom subs are too expensive for the KLH line up.