Sorry for the unclear first post.

So yes I need to have in-ceilings. Not really an option right now. If they turn out to be "horrible" or even not good actually then I have made the honest effort that makes everyone happy and I will move them to another room and get something else. So with that said if you bought the 60s / 80s and had to go with in-ceilings are there any suggestions?

If I can figure out a decent match then I will most likely go with the Axiom speakers.

Adrian -- where are you at? I am in Alaska so pretty much everything here is a roadtrip, but if you are not in AK then it is pretty much a no-go \:\)