I don't know what you look like but I have this visual of someone crawling around a room, going up the walls, on the ceiling and the floor measuring with a tape measure to find out where the sound starts and stops. Frankly it's disturbing....lol

Not sure my friend was concerned about the audio quality. He was pleased with the 6500. Pretty sure he just wanted the 8500 for the 13.2 channel capability wink

The Denon 2300 I have has the Audyssey XT, not the XT32. Like i said, it felt less powerful then the older Sony I was using and occasionally, it sounded like sounds were being dropped from the center channel. Like someone was talking from a distance but they were actually right there. Never could figure it out. Could not wait to get rid of that thing.

That's why the 1080 was purchased. But then I found out that there is no expand ability for the 1080, no preouts. And it doesn't upscale 1080P/60 to 4K! So I might take it back if the 6500 doesn't piss me off like the 2300 did.

M60
VP180
M2i
Sony STR-DN 1080