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Re: epic 80-600
#110755 09/19/05 03:31 AM
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Newkid,

If your not happy with the sound send em back! Pretty much everyone here myself included are axiom nuts. We want you to like them. If your not happy I for one would prefer that you send em back. Thats the whole purpose of having a 30 day money back garaunty.

I haven't read all the posts but it might be that for you to get that WoW feeling it might take quite a bit for cash on your end. If you read thru almost any of the threads here most Axiom enthusiasts are about the Bang for the buck. I can tell you this...if you keep them it might be a week/month/year but eventually your going to be listening to something and it's going to hit you...and you'll grin and say Wow!

I'd hang on to the 600 regaurdless.

Leaf

Re: epic 80-600
#110756 09/20/05 02:18 PM
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You need to read this This is a truly great system TOP TOP review by Audioholics
http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/loudspeakers/AxiomAudioM80tiEP600p1.php

Re: epic 80-600
#110757 09/20/05 04:06 PM
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Like most people who dive into the high end theater/stereo systems, I was used to a system you just hook up and you're done and that's it. My old Technique system, you could not even set a crossover or even worry about "large or "small." It was all defaulted and you had no control over it.

When I first hooked up my Axioms to my HK630, the speakers sounded loud and clear but really sounded not right. This was my first venture into a high end system. After a week of reading these boards and playing around with my own system settings, I found out that the default crossover settings on the HK were set to 100hz or 120hz (I forgot which) and I had my sub woofer set to something like 40hz. I was effectively cutting off 40-120hz range worth of sound. Once I got everything tuned in I was estatic with the way my system now sounds. Even after getting everything adjusted to have a good sound, I further got everything adjusted to where I think it sounds the best.

I still play around with the settings to hear the differences. You don't always listen to the same type of music or watch the same movies. Some music/movies may sound better with different settings. Once that switch in your head clicks and you understand what all this crap means, you'll enjoy playing around with it.


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Re: epic 80-600
#110758 09/21/05 03:26 PM
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When Bridgman said that only HK owners have independent crossover settings I was going to post he's wrong. But then I remembered that HK is the parent company to Lexicon, so he is right on. But I would guess there are other makes out there that allow this.

Speaking of setting the M80's to 60Hz, I tried this as well but ended up back at 80Hz. The reason is that I ran the 1hz increment test tones from 20 - 100 Hz and found that using the 80Hz crossover gave my room a flatter response over all.

As Shag said, every system is different, and probably more important every room is different acoustically. The room dimensions, Where your mains are located, where your sub(s) are located will greatly influence what sounds best.

Last edited by dllewel; 09/21/05 03:27 PM.

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Re: epic 80-600
#110759 09/21/05 04:19 PM
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dllewel,

Yep,me too. M80ti's at 80 Hz, everything set to Small on my H/K. Some of my colleagues use 60 Hz for the mains, others 40 Hz. It really depends on the room and the setup and your listening area.

Regards,


Alan Lofft,
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Re: epic 80-600
#110760 09/21/05 10:46 PM
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>>But then I remembered that HK is the parent company to Lexicon, so he is right on.

Um.... yeah, I knew that.... of course... everyone knows that... um... who ?

Thank you. That was very generous


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Re: epic 80-600
#110761 09/22/05 09:39 PM
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In reply to:

When Bridgman said that only HK owners have independent crossover settings I was going to post he's wrong. But then I remembered that HK is the parent company to Lexicon, so he is right on. But I would guess there are other makes out there that allow this.




I believe Anthem also offers this crossover customization. Mind you, you also pay a heck of alot more for the Anthem.



Re: epic 80-600
#110762 09/22/05 10:15 PM
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I'm also new at this Home Theater stuff, but seem to have gotten a pretty good handle on it. I have still yet to purchase my Axioms and look forward to the day. This subject got me thinking about 'burn-in.' Seems to me I recalled reading something in a review about speakers with metal drivers may need some 'burn-in' time to soften them up. I'm not sure how long that would take. I'm curious if anyone has noticed this with Axioms and if this may be part of what is troubling Newkid? Anyway just thought I'd throw it out there.
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Re: epic 80-600
#110763 09/22/05 10:44 PM
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I believe Anthem also offers this crossover customization. Mind you, you also pay a heck of alot more for the Anthem.
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As you do for Lexicon, I guess H/K is the most bang for the buck.


-Dave

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Re: epic 80-600
#110764 09/23/05 01:35 AM
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This is one where you'll get virulent disagreement. Ian, the owner/designer of Axiom has said that they break in within a few seconds or minutes, something like. This is probably accomplished during the factory testing. Many people around here consider break in to occur in the user's mind, as they get acclimated to the new sound.


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