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Sushi,
Whether JohnK was talking about the Ascends or not, his post is still misleading. I could care less if he chose the Axioms over the Ascends. Both speakers have a great reputation. What would bother me is if Gary chose Axioms because he thought "they are supposed to be better" than somethingelse. Just like I dislike the sound of the Rocket RS150...but if someone chose them over the Axioms or Ascends...more power to them.

BigWil,
Thanks for that shot. Tact or no tact, this Axiom board has great info, higher percentage of educated posts than other boards.

JohnK's post was extremely misleading.

What I saw was misleading advice to try and sway Gary into thinking that the M22 was "better" than what he had perceived.

spiffnme is correct. Close your eyes, forget the brand, and go with what sounds BEST TO YOU.

Take a good look at what happenned here when someone didn't like a particular aspect of the M22.

Curtis, sushi's analysis of my reply is entirely correct, as should have been apparent from the phrase "used to", and as such it simply reflects the reality of the situation.

John,

With all due respect, what Gary is used to hearing probably has nothing to do with accuracy, especially in this case.

You are claiming that the sound that Gary did not like from the M22 was because it was accurate, and that the fullness that he does like is inaccurate. That is misleading.

If that is the case, which speaker is more accurate, the M60 or the M22?

After many A/B comparisons I have decided that I like the m22s better overall. The ascends are very nice speakers, but their midrange clarity is less than the axioms, and that does not suprise me as the ascends have one 6.5" woofer vs. the axiom's dual smaller woofers. I still prefer the smooth treble of the ascends however. The axioms also seem to have a raspy/metallic character to vocals, although this is relatively minor. I'm going to give some Energy's a listen as well as my friend's m3s and m80s. Thanks for everyone's advice. I will update here when I have made my decision.

Great speaker Gary. But oh no!! You used the "metallic" word!!

Which Energys are you going to listen to?

Wow...quite the little cat fight we've got brewing here!

I don't know if you're budget can handle jumping to the M60's but they have the detail of the M22's, the smoothed out highs of the Ascends, and they are "fuller" sounding than either of them.

Before I bought my M22's my next favorite speaker that I had demo'd at the time were the Energy C-3's. You may like them as well.

Good luck!

Oh Boy....I can tell already this is going to be fun after I post my results Wednesday.

Zarak...are you implying that you already know what the results are going to be?

Spiffnme, are you saying the m60s have a more laid back treble than the m22s? I had always assumed they were about the same.

I was just at spiffnme's place to listen to speakers. I think his quick assessment of the M60 vs M22 is spot on. I would not call it laid back....but more finesse may be a better description. I like the M60.

If I may also interject, Ascend's currently un-advertised, but available via phone call, left/right version of the CMT-340 may also be to your liking. Not as big sounding as the M60, but may be worth a listen.

OK...the M60 sounds great, what does the M80 sound like in comparison?