Re: Receiver: Arcam vs Marantz vs Integra
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But you completely sidestepped the point that Peter was making. Have you double blind comparo'd the receivers you mentioned?
I didn't side step squat. I have done more A/B side by sides in my day then I care to remember. Anything I make a comment on you can be assured that I have heard it or I would not offer an opinion.......unlike some.
As for your last comment:
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And saying "big words am hard" doesn't get you out of it
Huh? Get me out of what? Has this forum gotten to the point that an obvious joke is now taken as some form of challenge? Is that political thread still alive and well in some folks?
I don't need to get out of anything.
Forgive me for even getting into this. Everyone sell off everything they own, spend it all on speakers and get a $300.00 receiver as you won't be able to hear squat for difference from a higher quality receiver or god forbid..........separates. Don't worry about the brand either as they all sound the same. Happy now? I feel good :-)
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Re: Receiver: Arcam vs Marantz vs Integra
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You say you have A/B compared them, but did you do it in a way that concealed the identities of the currently playing amp? That's the only way to remove your brain's influence from the equation.
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Re: Receiver: Arcam vs Marantz vs Integra
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I agree with Wid and Ken.
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Re: Receiver: Arcam vs Marantz vs Integra
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I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid....
Oh, sorry. I didn't recognize you with your new avatar.
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Re: Receiver: Arcam vs Marantz vs Integra
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Does this mean Christmas is now officially over?
Rick
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Re: Receiver: Arcam vs Marantz vs Integra
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Re: Receiver: Arcam vs Marantz vs Integra
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Yep, my wife finally made me take the lights down off of the house tonight, dang it was cold out, I about froze my fingers. Not to worry, I followed that project by changing the oil in my Silverado, warmed them up good with that freaking hot oil......
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Re: Receiver: Arcam vs Marantz vs Integra
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Holy crap.................it's like beating a dead horse. Yes I have done true blind testing in my day. That is if there is such a thing. My experience is limited to trying it with receivers and speakers only. But now I have opened up the door for the usual stuff that follows when blind testing is brought into question, was there a delay between switching components? Did you change seating positions? Did the sky go from Blue to Grey?
Have I been fooled? Yep this is why I openly admit that I have heard receivers that sound very similar and some that add there own twist to things. If you all believe that every receiver in existence sounds the same, so be it. It's all good. I’m just saying that I have heard other things that make me think a little differently.........and no, it wasn’t always the higher priced item that sounded better so please don't even go there. The "It sounded better because you needed it to because you paid a whack of cash for it" argument is lame and was old a long time ago.
As I know somebody is going to ask, the last true blind test I did was with the NAD T773 and the Yamaha 4600. If anyone cares, I honestly had a hell of a time telling them apart. Then it was an HK7300 and an Anthem AVM30 with power being supplied by a Sunfire. Call me an idiot; discount my ramblings as some guy on a quest for audio nirvana I don’t really care but the difference was night and day.
Now let me ask you all. Has anyone here done a blind A/B with the T773 and 4600? If you have let me hear your thoughts. If you haven’t, I question what you would be offering an opinion on? Speculation perhaps? A graph posted on the internet?
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Re: Receiver: Arcam vs Marantz vs Integra
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Yep, my wife finally made me take the lights down off of the house tonight, dang it was cold out, I about froze my fingers.
Ahhh, 72 degrees in Fresno today...life is good!
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Re: Receiver: Arcam vs Marantz vs Integra
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Just flip those numbers, and you've got a blistering 27, not including the wind chill ...
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