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Oh who cares one way or the other about speaker break-in, speaker wires, warm or bright amps, clean or dirty power, etc…………Folks who insist on arguing those points really need to get out more.

I just want to know more about this problem the reviewer mentioned with having M80’s in close proximity to the EP 600 in a small room.

I will have the same situation where my 600 will be within 2’ of one of my M80’s.

Sorry if you're offended, Mike, but you do have the option of not reading the thread if you don't like it.

Jack:
I think that was about the most succinct and well-reasoned argument I've read on the "con" side of speaker break-in.

Thanks for taking the time! No, if we could just find an "FAQ" area to reference it.....

Nice post Ajax. I don't know whether 'break in' is a real phenomenon or not. I know that the guy who designed and built my Thiel CS 3.6's says they need breaking in and I don't think he's looking to fool anyone ... they are GREAT sounding speakers. (ended up picking up a pair of used but mint CS 3.6's instead of going with the M80V2's and saved a few bucks.) I break-in components, but am usually not around for the process. I just leave 'em on set the CDP to 'repeat' and then when the weekend comes, kick back and listen to the music.

BTW, Ajax, thanks for the civilized discussion on the subject. You brought some needed class to this forum.

Mark and 2x6, thank you for the complimentary comments. They are much appreciated.

Great post Jack and thanks for taking the time to post it. I had thought that the Bluemoon review was a safe post and would be enjoyed by all. Lately it seems most everything becomes battle of who is right or wrong.

Jack, I'd like echo everyone's thoughts with a "thanks". Very well-stated and well-considered post. I, too, don't know if speaker break-in is an actual phenomenon, but I do know it takes quite some time for my ears to get used to a new speakers sound. That's why it's so hard for me to listen to speakers in stores because I need to spend some serious time with them to discover all the nuances.

While all the technical explanations of why speaker break-in should not occur make sense to me, I also like to believe in the fact that there are "intangibles" in the audio world, that are not necessarily measureable, but at least perceptible to one's enjoyment. And if one's enjoyment can be heightened by believing in such an intangible, then it is certainly well worth it in my book.

After all, we are all in this for the fun of it.

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Lately it seems most everything becomes battle of who is right or wrong.

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And exactly what the hell do you mean by that?

The interesting thing, and the reason why I feel quarreling about speaker break-in is unnecessary (do not confuse "quarreling with "discussing"), is that, whether it is the speaker's sound that changes, or our perception of the speaker's sound that changes, we are ALL going to run our speakers for xx number of hours, and this phenomenon, whatever it is, is going to occur, with the result being, basically, the same, regardless.

One thing I would think that both sides of the discussion could agree on, is that no final assessment of a speaker's quality should be made without spending a reasonable amount of time listening to them. Like you, Sean, I can't make an educated assessment of a speaker based on a 20 or 30 minute listening session in a store. For that reason, I really appreciate the internet direct option of listening under controlled conditions, in MY room, with MY equipment, for up to 30 days. Doing so, substantially reduces the possibility of being influenced by factors over which I have no control, such as my own biases and anxieties, or a salesperson telling me what I'm hearing, etc.

Good one, Mark.