Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Best AVReceiver under 1000$? consideration withn

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I think that everything washes out when my Sony converts from whatever to 1080P.

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So how do you resolve it?

this has been AWESOME feedback from all of you THANKS. I now have a MUCH better understanding of "upconverting" and "upscaling" and the diff between them. most helpfully with that said :

I have decided to stay with the yammy v2500 , and connect the Oppp DVD direct to HDMI input on the RPTV [it has 2 HDMI ports]. I assume that since the Oppo is putting out 1080i that its much easier on the RPTV(native 1080p) to upSCALE <-- hehe

please correct if I am thinkin' wrong. Thanks again to all that have replied, directly and indirectly

Maybe I should have said that it doesn't make any difference. Once your HDTV has to do a conversion, of any sort, it probably doesn't matter especially if the source is not high definition, anyway.

Stoney, you've sort of got the right idea, except that if the player sends a 1080i signal to the set, that means that the player has already done the scaling from 480 to 1080, so the set doesn't need to scale(the set's scaling may be better, worse or about the same as what the player does). What the set still has to do is deinterlace the i to p so that it can be shown on the 1080p display.

the "research" hehe READING never ends for me it seems..
First RatPack, that onkyo 703 looks like it would handle the Axioms well(as far as ohm rating anyway). As the m80's are 4ohm and the 150 and qm8's are 6 ohm, I'm interesting about what they call "dynamic power". I assume it has simple setting for different ohm speakers being used, and not have to have ONE ohm setting for ALL speakers?? Do u use a seperate amp in your setup or just drive all speakers with the Onkyo?

now with my rx-v2500, I must admit I am 'torn', its still new in the box and should n't be TOO hard to sell if need be. My question is STILL the same really , can it drive these different ohm Axioms to sound their best? Unlike the Onkyo (which apparently has setting for 8,6,4 ohm speakers) the Yammy says nothing about 4 ohm speakers, it does however mention a switch from 8 to 6 ohm. And through all my 'research' I get info, some that the yammy will drive the different ohm speakers, and some that say it wont ( or will give "not so great" performance with speakers other than 8 ohm'erz) so I'd really like to get this cleared up, as I'm getting WAY ANTZ-E about ordering my Axioms, but want to know that I am matching up components the best I can before i can order.

a refresher : I have
unopened yammy rx-v2500 rec.
jvc HD-56FH96 rptv
OPPO DVD

my Axiom considerations are thus:
Mains: 60 or 80
center: 150
surround: qs8
sub: 500 (or HSU VTF-3 mkII, as I'm still not convinced the 500 is 500$'s better the the HSU)

I appreciate ALL replies

Good Morning Stone:

I do not have any problem driving my M80s, VP-150 and QS8s with my Onkyo 703. That was somewhat of a surprise because I was anticipating problems with the M80s. But, I was planning on buying a seperate amp so it was not going to be an issue anyway. I still am planning on buying the amp, not because I think that I really need it, but because I want one.

I sit about 12-13 feet from the M80s and have measured a sound level of over 95 dB. That was way too loud and I could not stand it very long.

Maybe this answers you on the "dynamic power," maybe not. If it does not, maybe you could ask the question a little different.

I think that most people will tell you not to change the load setting from 8 ohms. I have not changed mine. It is set for 8 ohms for all my speakers. I have seen Alan post several times not to change the speaker load setting. I think that all it does is limit the output current of your receiver.

I did a lot of research on subwoofers before I bought the SVS. SVS seemed like it was the best value, all things considered. The Axiom subs were never in the running, in my mind, even though they have received a lot of excellent press and awards since. I have been very pleased with my SVS. I don't think that you would go wrong with a SVS or an Axiom for that matter.

Hope that this helps!

This link explains the issues the yammy RX-V2500 has with 4ohm speakers

thanks u guys, I copied the reccomedation from that review

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The Yamaha RX-V2500 has respectable amplifier performance for a receiver in its price class and should serve most home theater environments quite well. I advise against using low efficient 4 ohm speakers in environments where you like to play your music loudly and your room dimensions exceed 2000 ft^3. For best results, my advice is to use reasonably efficient (88dB or higher) 6-8 ohm speakers (4 ohm may be used if their efficiency is 90dB or greater and you provide adequate ventilation) and apply bass management to all channels and route the power hungry bass information to a dedicated subwoofer or two. If you find you need more power in the future, simply preamp out to a dedicated amp and you have yourself a great processor with all the latest surround formats on board.

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I'm not that techically savvy, but reading through the whole of that page, i gathered he was trying to see just how much abuse it would take at very high SPL levels. I like music and movies loud at times but not ear bleedingly so <--- is that a word lol , back to what was said, I will indeed use a sub, not sure which one yet but a sub none the less. Its mentioned that doing that takes a fair amount of load of the receiver. Also it mentions the if the 4 ohm speaker is "efficient" enough it alright, does the m80 fall at or above this 90db or greater? I see the SPL is above 90 for the m80's but me wee brain is not sure those are the numbers that are meant by "efficient" db rating. Forgive my ignorance in this matter,, and remember I ask these questions to make the most informed expenditure of $$$$ that I can.
Just found the info on the amp they have here at the BX , its a Kenwood KMF-X9000, its a 2 channel amp at 130watts or 145 watts a channel(read conflicting #'s on it OH< and its at SIX 6 ohm), 350$ ... could this be the answer to my worries about the yammy not being able to, hehe as I say, "optimally" drive the m80's . anyone know is this kmf-x9000 any good? its thx cert. for what thats worth. I'm not asking if its the best or on keel with a rotel, but will it do the job I need done. From the little info I see on it I believe its an old model. Again appreciate ALL replies.

I don't preview of spell check so don't complain about "me" poor grahamher.

left me spehln airoors, but forgot to add that its watts per channedl is at 6 ohm. not 8. will this work for the 80's, why can't this sh!t just be easy for me. nooooo ... lol

Yes the M80s do fall in the range of high a efficient 4 ohm load with their 95db rating. They are also an easy 4 ohm speaker not dipping below their 4 ohm rating.

What I would do is get the M80s, if that is what you want, try them out with the Yamaha and see if it has any trouble pushing them. If you make sure to have enough breathing room around the receiver my bet is it will do a good job for your needs.

I'd agree with Rick.

This Onkyo M-282 is generally considered a pretty good value for external amplification if you need it.