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Shiner Bock is only good when compared to other Texan beers.

Hehe. Thanks Tom. I was actually drinking the Feierlings at the brauerei in Freiburg Germany.... Like I said. Amazing summer of 91

James, good for you! I'm jealous.

I respect the tradition, scale and Texas-ness of Shiner. I want to reiterate my other comments on that brand; it can be a fine beer, especially depending upon the atmosphere, circumstances and your expectations.

But it ain't no Bock. Even Shiner enters that beer as an "American Dark Lager" at the GABF. So, it is competing against Weinhard's Dark, maybe Leinenkugels, etc. It is not the same STYLE of beer as Paulaner or other true bocks brewed in Germany or at craft breweries in the US. "Shiner Bock" is an expression of marketing, but not an accurate stylistic classification.

Mark, maybe my recommendation on the Framboise was just more memorable than yours Whatcha drinking nowadays, anyway? I've been mostly on Maker's Mark, neat, lately. Can't complain.

Shiner is good but a better Texas beer is ZiegenBock.

Any one familiar with a french ale called Fisher Amber? It's my new fave.

Tom, last night was Makers Mark - on top of Pilsener Urquell and Pete's Wicked Brown. Tonight: cheap wine, BBQ porterhouse in the rain and some cognac. You know you're a fool when you're BBQing in the rain.

I'm a little familiar with that Fischer stuff. Drank a ton of it acquiring those flip top bottles for homebrewing (too lazy to sanitize caps you know).
It's not bad, but don't end your quest for the perfect beer yet.

Hey Tom, I just had myself a big bottle of Stone Ruination IPA. Tremendous hop bouquet! The beer itself was good - a bit out of balance - but that bouquet was awesome!

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Shiner is good but a better Texas beer is ZiegenBock.

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Ziegy is actually an AB product available only in Texas. Not that it matters, I guess.

I'm late to the conversation, but I'll give you a couple of suggestions:

Boulevard Pale Ale - Kansas City
Alaskan Amber - Alaska


Don't know if they have been discussed, but they are both oustanding!

I like some of the Fischer Beer. It often suffers from bad handling and, like Heineken, tastes skunked to me. Is Alsace in France nowadays? Harumph.

I've not had that Stone beer, but they do make some good ones. Are they the ones who make "Arrogant B*stard"? That's a hop monster too.

I had a Piraat ale last night. Bliss, I tell you!! It is a non-abbey Belgian Trippel (10.5% abv). Hoppier than I'm used to for the style, but not at all out of balance. Really delightful. Highly recommended.

This thing needed a bump. I don't sleep at all well when the beer thread gets down to page 2.

I'm going to Florida in a few weeks. Is there real beer there? My previous visits indicate "not really" as an answer.