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Just ordered a Velodyne SMS-1 to mate w/EP500
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Any SMS-1 owners out there that can provide any tips for mating this w/my sub? I think this will make the most of my EP500 that is in a very difficult room.


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Re: Just ordered a Velodyne SMS-1 to mate w/EP500
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Have you tried acoustic panels and bass traps?


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Have you tried acoustic panels and bass traps?




Sirquack- As much as I'd love to, the HT room is also our only main living room (condo), and the wife has endured all of the furniture re-arranging, and thick rug pads that she is willing to handle. The SMS-1 will be my last toy for a bit......


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darthkringle #147432 09/12/06 07:36 PM
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I do not own an SMS-1, but I have heard that the user manual from Outlawaudio (SMS-1 reseller, available on-line) is very well written and easy to understand. On the other hand, Velodyne's manual doesn't get the best reviews.


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It is actually entitled; "The Outlaw's Guide to the SMS-1".


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saddlesore #147434 09/12/06 07:50 PM
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The Outlaw's Guide to the SMS-1

Ooh, that's the first time I've done link patrol!

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Re: Just ordered a Velodyne SMS-1 to mate w/EP500
darthkringle #147435 09/12/06 07:57 PM
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I believe a couple of people on the board are using SMS-1 with EP600s -- should be the same setup.


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Slow day in Austin, Rich?


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Re: Just ordered a Velodyne SMS-1 to mate w/EP500
darthkringle #147437 09/12/06 09:43 PM
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An SMS-1 with an EP500 will give you wonderful bass if set up properly. As Sirquack suggested before equalizing you should at first explore room acoustical treatments. Bass traps in particular make a huge difference to the room and are easy to construct. Of all the techniques I've employed bass traps had the most impact on improving sound.

Placement of the sub is just as critical with the SMS since like all equalizers it should be used sparingly when dealing with room dips. At this point only run sweeps through the sub. The guides are straightforward enough, set the 500 at your favourite spot then move the mic along the walls while watching the screen and running sweeps with all bars flat(no equalization adjustment). Where the FR looks most linear is the best placement. That may not work aesthetically so find someplace just as flat.

Next step would be to use the 500s trim control to compensate for room loading. You may get a smoother response. Setting the trim to Half will increase frequencies above 33HZ and Full will boost it more. Check to see which trim setting gives the flattest response.

Still leave the speakers off with the sub getting a full signal with crossover set above 100hz. Now run auto equalization. Next adjust to manual mode. The guide gives good guidance on how to get adjust the peaks and try to avoid boosting dips.

Now turn on the speakers and set the crossover to where you prefer. Leave the phase switch alone at the 500 and adjust phase at the SMS in small increments to where you get the flattest response. Then readjust the crossover at the receiver to see if going up or down in value helps smooth the graph. You may have to go back and forth several times. Small adjustments in the sub placement should also be examined again to see if it makes the curve more linear as well. Adjust the bars again using boost and Q to get the flattest response. Enjoy the sound.


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Re: Just ordered a Velodyne SMS-1 to mate w/EP500
jakeman #147438 09/12/06 10:43 PM
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I have the EP500 and an SMS-1. Excellent results can be obtained, but it requires some time and experimentation. Definitely use the manual EQ mode instead of the auto to get better results.

Jakeman's outline of the process is excellent, no more for me to say.


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