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Re: Room Shapes
Hutzal #148462 09/29/06 08:24 PM
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I agree that it's hard to overtreat your room with bass traps because they are so big it's always hard to fit enough in, but it's real easy to overtreat your room with mid-high absorbers.

I have seen a number of rooms done up like low-buck anechoic chambers which sounded truly awful. I have also done that myself, although I claim youthful ignorance as my excuse

Ethan will be the first one to tell you not to overdo it with mid-high absorbers. His rooms are lousy with bass traps but I think you will find very few of them absorb in the mid-high range.


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Re: Room Shapes
bridgman #148463 09/29/06 08:38 PM
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I think the only way to resolve these issue is like civilized people.

With a 2 way cage match with Randy vs. Alan and John vs Hutzal.


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Re: Room Shapes
Ken.C #148464 09/29/06 08:41 PM
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Absolutely, and we can line the cage with bass traps


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alan #148465 09/29/06 08:50 PM
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Ken.C #148466 09/29/06 08:52 PM
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alan #148467 09/29/06 09:20 PM
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Re: Room Shapes
SirQuack #148468 09/29/06 09:22 PM
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There is actually a very similar discussion like this one occuring at Ethan Winers forum, he is "discussing" with another acoustics company about how treated a 2 channel listening room should be.

Ethans stance is this: If a mastering room is treated to be a dead room with no reflection points, which shouldn't the consumer hear the recording EXACTLY how the engineer hears it?

I agree with that. If i really want to know what the best possible sound is for the recording that I am listening to, why don't I make my room sound like the engineers? Obviously if he mixed it in a dead room, won't it sound the best in a dead room?

In any case, I see all the points from all views, in a real-world case a 2 channel listening room will RARELY be in a complete dead room because it just isn't practical.

Not to mention the WAF

I guess there are different kind of ears for different kinds of rooms. To each his own Castle!

John, I never thought you would be at a loss for words!

Alan, can we line the cage with Superchunks?

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Re: Room Shapes
Hutzal #148469 09/29/06 09:31 PM
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Quote:

Obviously if he mixed it in a dead room, won't it sound the best in a dead room?


Unless you have the same speakers, placed exactly the same same distance apart and exactly the same distance from your ears, then the answer is not necessarily. And even if you do duplicate the mastering suite, it's still iffy.

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pmbuko #148470 09/29/06 09:36 PM
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And between the two of you, you've put your finger on why this hobby can be quite depressing.


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pmbuko #148471 09/29/06 10:05 PM
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>>Unless you have the same speakers, placed exactly the same same distance apart and exactly the same distance from your ears, then the answer is not necessarily. And even if you do duplicate the mastering suite, it's still iffy.

Which is why I am certain that every person should judge for themselves what sounds the best in their own room. Like I said, to each his own!:)

I don't find this depressing, I like talking to others with different opinions to broaden my learning and increase my knowlege in the sound area.

I also never meant for my comments to be taken in a harsh manner. If they have then I appologize.

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