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Re: Axiom M60v2 vs. Thiel CS1.6
PaulM #155658 01/13/07 06:32 PM
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I've heard and quite enjoyed the Thiel sound. If not for the price I too may have owned some. Their sound is not totally different from Axiom's in my opinion. I'd for certain find some Axioms to listen to before making your final purchase. If the two sounded completely differently I'd say so, but honestly I think they both have a detailed forward sound that I personally enjoy.

Good luck!

Re: Axiom M60v2 vs. Thiel CS1.6
DrunkenWolf #155659 01/20/07 12:55 PM
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I think Axiom gives people a 5% commission if you buy after the audition so you'd be doing someone here a favor too.




Does anybody know if this is true for sure? If so, I want to make sure my demo-er knows about this.

Re: Axiom M60v2 vs. Thiel CS1.6
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I believe it is.


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Re: Axiom M60v2 vs. Thiel CS1.6
Wid #155661 01/20/07 03:26 PM
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Yes. Just send an e-mail to Noreen after/during purchase. I believe they will wait until after the 30 day trial period is over, and then send the person that hosted the demo an Axiom gift certificate for 5% of the final sale.


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Re: Axiom M60v2 vs. Thiel CS1.6
ksfx #155662 01/20/07 03:45 PM
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It is true. I've received two such commissions after demos at my home resulted in successful sales.

Re: Axiom M60v2 vs. Thiel CS1.6
BudgetAudiophile #155663 01/20/07 05:10 PM
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I know there have been many discussions on Thiel in the past on this forum. You might want to try the "search" feature which might give you some of the answers your looking for...

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Re: Axiom M60v2 vs. Thiel CS1.6
BudgetAudiophile #155664 01/31/07 04:47 PM
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I'll be honest and say that I don't expect the M60 to be the sonic equal to the Thiel, but if I can get to the magic 90th% range, I think I can live with it, given the price difference.




I know exactly what you are facing. Thiel was my first choice for a speaker but the price tag was not reasonable. There are a lot of speakers that follow the "law of diminishing returns". The speakers that I ended up with (granted, before I even knew about Axiom) are the Monitor Audio GR60s. Yes they sound "better" than the Axioms IMO but would I have been happy with the M80s instead? I would have to say yes. The only reason I have the GR60s is because of the deal I got. If I had to buy them new, I would not own a pair.

If, as you say, you can be happy with the 90th percentile then you will definitely be happy with the M80s.

When you get into the class of Thiel, Monitor Audio, Dynaudio, Mirage, etc (their higher end models) they do perform "better". By "better" there is also the human factor where people get used to a type of sound that is not necessarily accurate, rather what they find appealing to their ears. I used to have a pair of Mirage M3si speakers that were amazing performers but sold them becasue they were too big. They handled bass better than the GR60s but that is why I have an accurate subwoofer.

If you can decide between performance or budget, and choose the latter, the M80s would be your choice. Best bang for the buck. If you decide performance and fear that you would be telling yourself "I should have spent the extra $$$" then you will likely choose the Thiels. I spent close to $4000 on my Mirage speakers and while I enjoyed the sound, I regretted the outlay of cash that should have gone into other equipment (or RRSPs!).

Re: Axiom M60v2 vs. Thiel CS1.6
BruceH #155665 02/27/07 11:29 PM
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Due to some upcoming expenses (one being a new baby), I've decided to go with the M22 V2's. I ordered a pair last night, and am waiting for them to arrive. Once they get to my house and I've had time to evaluate them, I'll post my "review" of them. Since I have a nice subwoofer that I'm not going to bypass (and I'm not going to listen at ear-bleeding levels) the M60s may be more than I actually need. Besides, I'm limited on space right now, and when I have a dedicated HT room, it'll likely end up smaller than the room my HT equipment resides at the moment.

If I like the M22's, the end goal is to get a third one for the center (or maybe an M2) and a pair of QS8's for the surrounds. Then I'll focus on upgrading the rest of my equipment after I move (yeah, that's the other big expense... we're planning to move into a much more expensive house in the near future).

As for now, I'll sit back and anxiously await the arrival of the M22s (in Boston Cherry).

Thanks to everyone for their help and opinions.

Re: Axiom M60v2 vs. Thiel CS1.6
BudgetAudiophile #155666 02/27/07 11:36 PM
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Budget,

you will NOT be dissapointed, congrats on the M22s. When they are paired with a capable sub they sound simply astounding.

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Re: Axiom M60v2 vs. Thiel CS1.6
BudgetAudiophile #155667 02/28/07 04:02 PM
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Budget, you will be impressed by the soundstage that the M22's present. They work very well with my EP500. Which sub are you using?


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