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Re: CD Player vs. DVD Player for Audio- My Experi
korkster #170163 06/12/07 09:42 PM
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Remember... my opinion..

I'd venture to say that the piano bench "sqeak" would also be heard with the old cd equipment. You're listening harder, IMO.


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Spoiler #170164 06/13/07 02:06 PM
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That's just it, I wasn't listening "harder;" I was actually looking at a magazine and just enjoying listening to what I think is a great Neil Young cd that is well engineered. The "sqeak" distracted me into listening further to figure out what it was as I have listened to the cd several times before and never noticed it.

But I guess this debate will rage on forever. As I said, everybody's different and we hear things differently. My wife would be perfectly satisfied listening to a boom box, and thinks I'm nuts. That's why there are so many different equipment manufacturers out there, and why some people buy Fords and others buy Chevy's, both swearing that their car is the best.

And so it goes.

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korkster #170165 06/13/07 09:18 PM
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If you are happy with your purchase then it was money well spent.


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Wid #170166 06/13/07 11:52 PM
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Agreed... if you're happy with your purchase, then that's what counts. It certainly isn't my goal to convince you otherwise. I'm just presenting my point of view.

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korkster #170167 06/14/07 04:46 AM
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korkster,

I know EXACTLY where you are coming from, when you said: "subtle differences" regarding the sound quality.
I believe you heard, what you heard........but all that, the sales guys said about "properly warming up", and "playing a cd for 3-4 days.....before listening" makes no sense. Your new cd player may sound better....but that's not why.
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LT61 #170168 06/14/07 06:28 PM
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I believe you guys, I just don't understand that there are so many reviews, written by people who I would assume know what they're talking about (maybe that's the problem), that talk about "break-in" and "warm-up." If it doesn't matter, why are there so many reviewers out there that say it does make a difference? I'm so confused? Are they all wrong, and if so, why are they then the so called "experts" writing for audiophile type magazines?

I read one review on the Arcam CD192 specifically, that talked about how the unit they tested sounded so different after "breaking-in" for 70+ hours. And there are cd's out there that were developed especially for the purpose of "breaking-in" equipment, cables, etc.? Is it all "snake oil?"

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korkster #170169 06/14/07 10:12 PM
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All we need is to have a double-blind listening test of a unit fresh off of the assembly line and one that's had this break-in period. Does someone have a link to an article with this kind of test in it?

The theory I seem to see is that people are simply psychologically breaking them in, which seems reasonable to me.

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CV #170170 06/15/07 03:16 AM
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I am slowly learning that the huge bank of electrolytic power supply capacitors in these units do "break in" and it is in the order of tens of hours and maybe even more. Does it make a practical difference to the ear? The jury is still out on that one.

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