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Re: Movie voices sometimeseem raspy or too "bright
jbsengineer #177643 10/03/07 04:53 PM
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Let me throw this out there. All my tests from quality music, DVD's, etc come from a Xbox DVD/HD-DVD player. I'm using an Xbox Monster cable/Optical cable. Is it all possible a source problem?




You can try to connect the right left of the xbox outputs to the "CD" inputs on your receiver, and it should get the signal regardless of the fact that optical is connected as well.


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Hutzal #177644 10/03/07 05:01 PM
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I'm sure the audio will then be so mucky it won't matter.


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This latest idea of the source just made me realize I need to try the M60s with the DVD player. I will report later.....


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Re: Movie voices sometimeseem raspy or too "bright
jbsengineer #177646 10/03/07 10:45 PM
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I'm sure the audio will then be so mucky it won't matter.




It technically SHOULD be cleaner, as you are using left and right coaxial inputs.


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Hutzal #177647 10/03/07 11:45 PM
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But won't I lose the Dolby Digital, DTS, etc?


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jbsengineer #177648 10/03/07 11:56 PM
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The xbox only has the component and optical cables. I'll have to find the original xbox cable with the left right composites.


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Re: Movie voices sometimeseem raspy or too "bright
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This latest idea of the source just made me realize I need to try the M60s with the DVD player. I will report later.....




FWIW, I did find the mids/uppers a little more distinct with the digital off the dvd player compared to the analog cd player, but not enough to come close to the M22 using analog.

I did hear more sibilance on the digital feed when using the M22s alone.


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This latest idea of the source just made me realize I need to try the M60s with the DVD player. I will report later.....




FWIW, I did find the mids/uppers a little more distinct with the digital off the dvd player compared to the analog cd player, but not enough to come close to the M22 using analog.

I did hear more sibilance on the digital feed when using the M22s alone.




Are you saying I need to purchase M80's, ?


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Re: Movie voices sometimeseem raspy or too "bright
jbsengineer #177651 10/04/07 01:25 AM
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So I did ALOT of testing tonight and found the following:

*Sirius via Anaglog composites had no harshness with music

*CD's via the Xbox DVD player had no harshness whatsoever

*Eagles Farewell tour DVD had alot of harshness and exaggerated "SSSSS"'s from voices when cranked loud. This came from the entire soundstage.

*HD-DVD and DVD movies with quality Dolby Digital audio have harshness and exaggerated "SSSSS"'s. Only when the voices are solo. The sound is amazing otherwise.

When I cranked the treble way down to about -8 it really helped with the harshness when watching the movies. It didn't seem to effect the overall audio. On the Eagles DVD it really hurt the overall audio when I did that even though it improved the harshness of the voices.

I did give the Auto-EQ another try and found it helped the problem with harshness if I gave it a -5 tilt. However this significantly lowered the overall volume and pretty much took most of the lower freqencies out. This left me without a sub, .

My listening position is directly in front of the VP150 about 10 feet back. If I move about 4 feet to the left or right the harshness decreases but is still evident. Instead of disconnecting the center I lowered it's output to the max -10. This obviously helped but it was still evident. And it was horrible without a center...


I'm still looking to try another reciever. And plug a M22 into the center instead of the vp150.

So it looks like good quality audio with no background noise really shows the harshness of voices during conversation. I must say I'm frustrated at this point, .


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JB, enough strands can simply be trimmed off of the stripped end so that it'll fit. The thickness of the last 1/2" doesn't change the overall resistance of the wire significantly.


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