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Re: Texas' New Epicenter
myrison #205624 04/27/08 04:41 AM
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...give you the infamous "punch" which I'm now starting to suspect is non-linearity.

I have been wondering that for a while now. It seems to me that over time, the bass in music has been turned up to the point where it is possibly over emphasized in a lot of music.

When I was a young lad, I don't remember any "kick-in-the-chest" bass. Well, maybe just a little in the local Disco . Thats where I think all this whump whump stuff got started.

It also seems that a LOT of people really like this punch.


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Re: Texas' New Epicenter
fredk #205628 04/27/08 04:46 AM
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When you were a young lad, you listened to bass through Realistic speakers...which had no bass \:\) .


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Re: Texas' New Epicenter
Mojo #205629 04/27/08 04:48 AM
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Advents.

I was thinking of those big mother industrial jobs they use for concerts. They could certainly have put out more whump.


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Re: Texas' New Epicenter
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You were a rich, young lad \:\) .


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Re: Texas' New Epicenter
Mojo #205632 04/27/08 04:57 AM
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Hah! Nope, just always had good taste. Had a nice Dual turntable to go with them too. Working in Tobaco country did pay well in those days though.


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Re: Texas' New Epicenter
Mojo #205633 04/27/08 05:03 AM
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Unfortunately I've never plotted my Sony. Definitely it's a non-linearity that is causing the punch and it's a darned pleasing one \:\)


I really would love to see the response of that sub, for 2 reasons. First of course is to see if there is a peak somewhere that is causing the punch, and second, to see if it can be replicated using the BFD.

Does anyone here have that Sony sub plotted?


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Re: Texas' New Epicenter
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I've tried to replicate the 'thump' with the SMS-1 with limited results. After flattening the FR as much as I could, I dialed in varying degrees of gain in the 60 - 80hz area. Better, but no cigar.



So where's your sub Jakewash? \:\)




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Re: Texas' New Epicenter
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Maybe the thump is coming from above 60 to 80Hz. Have you tried increasing the gain at higher frequencies? Or maybe the 600's limiter is kicking in.


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Re: Texas' New Epicenter
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Sroo,

I don't think anyone else on this board has this sub. A reminder that I modded this sub by shellacking the inside surface of the driver and stuffing it loosely with poly.

Here is a link to it. Perhaps someone can find a response plot for it. If and when I get some time, I'll do a plot.

http://www0.epinions.com/Sony_SA_WM40_626383/display_~reviews

Re: Texas' New Epicenter
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Maybe the thump is coming from above 60 to 80Hz. Have you tried increasing the gain at higher frequencies? Or maybe the 600's limiter is kicking in.


Nope, I didn't try the 80-100hz area. However, I have had a car sub setup with an amp that had a parametric EQ (JL Audio), and I found that I got the most pleasing results by bumping the 60-80hz area.

Linear it wasn't, but gawd it sounded good!


Good point about the limiter possibly kicking in. I wouldn't know how to tell if it was. I wasn't testing at very loud levels, but I don't know under exactly what conditions the limiter does its job and to what extent.


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