Re: The Italian Job
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it is offically N-A-D according to every dealer ive talked to. but i use NAD
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Re: The Italian Job
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Saw the movies tonight. The electrostat is a USD $10,000+ Martin Login Prodigy. I've listened to them by chance before listening to Maggies yesterday. It was hooked up to 2 x 700w Krell Master Reference USD $14,000 each monoblock. And I have to tell you it definitely moved air ... taking it up could really possibly remove clothing. The guy by accident move a wire on the back of the amp and this very very loud pop was heard. I felt it in the pit of my stomach. He just turned red. Quickly played the SACD and it sounded okey. Thats when I exited the room before his manager (not sure though) came through the door. I noticed the planer room was empty and sat down to a session on the Maggies MG12 powered by Musical Fidelity TriVista Tubes and TriVista SACD. Boy I love those blue lights.
http://www.audiorevolution.com/equip/martinloganprodigy/
http://www.stereotimes.com/amp020403.shtm
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I've seriously listened to the Martin Logans (including the new Prodigy and Odyssey) in the dealer rooms on several occasions, and I could never get rid of my impressions of subtly "veiled" sound. The music always sounded like it was performed through a thin layer of curtain. I don't know if this is a general character of electrostats or due to specific design elements of the MLs, but I got the same veiled impressions when I listened to the Quad ESL-989s and the Sound Lab U-1, too.
In addition, I still think the MLs have a significant problem in the sonic transition from the electrostat panel to the bass driver (an usual cone woofer) -- I could hear clear transitions when listening to, for example, a piano solo.
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Yeah, but were they capable of blowing the clothes off women?
I live the life I love and I love the life I live.
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Hey sushi you did notice I never mentioned about the music qualities.
I'll ask someone I know to wear one of those thin summer one piece dress and see if it works. I hope the fiancee doesn't see this post.
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LOL LOL You guys can make a joke out of ANY posts...
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The funny thing is... I don't think he's joking.
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I'll make sure I'll bring my digital camera.
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I've got to agree with Saturn about the Martin-Logan Prodigies. I heard them in a similar Krell setup, too. Two Krell monoblocks powering each channel. It really was one of the most incredible audio experiences I've ever heard. If anyone lives in Los Angeles, go check them out at LA Stereo on Western. The owner loves to demo his products.
My experience with electrostats (and most hybrid or ribbon speakers as well) is that you either love them or hate them. There seems to be no middle ground. Most complaints I hear are about the bass not being connected, which I've never had a problem with. My only issue with ML's specifically is placement and finding the sweet spot. If you don't have the correct room to use them in, they will not reproduce sound to their full potential. And there is a major difference in sound if you are not seated in the right position to listen to them. But, not every speaker is perfect (No disrespect to my beloved M-60's, of course), so you have to have your tradeoffs, regardless.
One of the other reasons why I happen to love the Prodigies is the fact that after we took a listen to them, we went in the next room and heard a set of, this is not a typo either, $80,000 Wilson speakers. I don't recall the model number, but they are the ugliest speakers I've ever seen. They look like they're out of an episode of "Lost In Space." Almost the same Krell setup as the Prodigies were, too. We put on the same track on the cd we had listened to on the ML's and tried to justify the $70,000 price difference in what we had just heard, which never happened. I felt the $10,000 Prodigies sounded so much better than the $80,000 Wilsons, too, that I almost considered them a bargain at the "cheap" price tag. Alas, they were still $9500 out of my financial reach, but a guy's got to have goals.
If you ever get a chance to check them out, I highly recommend you give them a listen.
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