Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater m22ti worth upgrading?

hope your ceilings aren't 13ft tall, the worst room for peaks and nulls in freq response is where dimensions are the same or divisible easily by each other. The 80's will give you better bass response, but a lot has to do with how you have your bass management setup in the receiver, sub, etc.

Luc, I would suggest getting ahold of one of the M80 owners that migh be near you so you can compare the sound of the M22 and the M80's.

I went from M22s to M60 (briefly) to M80s and I, like you, had felt there was possibly something missing with M22/sub, IMO there is. I feel that the M80s full spectrum ability adds to the overall feel of the sound, the bigger question is, can you justify the extra money for a warmer/richer feel.

Here is a link to an older thread of my experience with M22/M60/M80 comparison.

Only if you're not careful. I have them in a 14x20 (x8.5) room and have managed to walk out alive after listening several times.

With that said, they undoubtedly play much louder than I need for my room, but I think even at low volumes that they offer absolutely incredible detail. (I haven't heard the M22 head to head, so my advice isn't directly relevant to your question, but that never seemed to stop me in the past, and I'm not going to let it now either)

Jason

Well, the difference in form-factor is pretty significant. Jason's room is dedicated to his theatre.

Luc, don't underestimate just how deep the M80's are physically. By the time you move them out from the wall a bit, the effective size of your room is going to be diminished by about a meter in that direction. Same thing with their position relative to the side walls.

If you have other furniture in that room, the M80's could disrupt your aesthetic.

Honestly, given the size of your room and the size of the M80's, I'd just stick with the M22's. Perhaps experiment with their placement a bit. See if you can borrow another sub from a shop or a friend to see if that makes a big difference for you.

Adding a second sub made a big difference for me as far as smoothing out the bass. I didn't need the first sub turned up as loud to compensate for bass loss in certain areas of my room. Also upgrading to the EP400 didn't hurt either.

here is a link to my thoughts eons ago when I first purchased the m22 and then picked up the m60s.
It really comes down to your room size and personal preferences. For movies I would say the floorstanders will not provide much of a benefit over bookshelves and a good sub since most of the material is dialogue.
For music listening which provides a more constant complete range of sound frequencies I have found the floorstanding speakers to provide a full enveloping kind of sound that I just find missing with bookshelf speakers.

As for the sound quality, M22 and m80 and M60's sound very very similar with some obvious differences for their cabinet sizes and driver sizes.

Good point Tom - they do eat up a lot of the real estate, and in my room it's unimportant space as it's the first 3' out from a 100" screen... where no one will ever want to walk/sit/stand, etc. In a multifunctional room, that's a lot more space to chew up.

At 95% movies, I would go for a second sub to smooth out the bass.

I did a/b comparisons of the M22+sub, M60 and M80. They all sound very similar, but the M80 seemed to deliver more detail across the entire frequency range. The m22+ sub had a much more forward sound than the M80.

I was evaluating mainly for music.

What sub do you have right now? I.E. the model

can't tell you THE exact model number but it's a PSB 12". It really delivers a nice bass.

To be honest, I'm listening to Pirates of the carrabean 3 on my newly bought receiver (pio vsx1018). I'm cranking up the volume for the first time. I think I will keep my setup as is.

but if people made the switch, keep the comments coming in.