Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater A question for the sub owners in the house...

Ok so I'm about to purchase an Axiom home theater system, but I'm trying to decide between the Epic 80/600, or the Epic 80/500 with an extra EP500 to go along with it. So for owners of each, I would like to hear impressions in the differences between these two subs. I'm looking for maximum bass in movies (like everyone else), but also good, tight musical performance.

My movie room is 24 x 24 (about 600 sq ft) with 8 1/2 inch ceilings. It has a door to close it off to the rest of the house, so I'm sure that the EP600 would do the job just fine while the door is closed. What I'm wondering is will it fill my entire house (about 2500 sq ft) with pounding bass when I'm listening to music? This is what I was wondering, would I be better off spending $600 dollars more than the EP600's price tag ($1900) for an extra 400 watts worth of bass performance? Or is the EP 600 THAT MUCH BETTER of a sub than the EP500 that it's not neccessary?

I thank you in advance for your advice.

Hi Micah,

I don't have an EP600, but I do have 2 EP500s. My room is about 14 x 35. 7'8" ceilings. It's enough bass for me. They shake the room real nice. I would probably have been fine with 1 EP500. I don't have them turned up much at all. I'm sure one EP600 would work fine for you. Ever think of the EP800? Not sure of the price difference. Someone on these boards has both an EP600 and EP800. That would be overkill for my setup. But that really must shake things up!

I live in a ranch home with 2100 sq ft per level, or 4200 total. My HT/Rec room is about 30 x 31 x 9 with an open hallway into the rest of the basement.

Here is the order of subs I've owned:

350v1 (did well)

then upgraded to an ep500 (night and day difference, awesome performance)

then upgraded to a ep600 out of curiousity (very similar to the 500, just a little more bottom end and more overall presence, keep in mind the enclosure is much larger and takes up more room if you go with the horizontal version)

currently own twin 350v3's in addition to the 600 (this was done to give me a flatter frequency response across all seats and reduce peaks/nulls in the room)

To answer your question, I think you'll be happy with one 500 or 600. Two subs will give you more output and if placed across the room from each other, will help with a flatter response across all seats.

I think thay you'll be happier with two 500's vs just one 600. Not only is placement easier due to the smaller cabinet but like others have said you'll get better response with two subs. I decided on one EP600 for our theater room, If i had to do it all again i would have got two 500's instead.

Definitly 2 500's or 2 600. I only have an ep 600, but there are null spots in the room. 2 500s are probably better than only one ep 600

Great, hey thanks for all of the advice, very helpfull. Oh and an EP800??? I haven't even seen one of those in their products section, is it due out soon or something?

Soon, but not soon enough.

Ouchomatic! Sorry!

I'd be inclined to go with 2 EP 500s for the flatter response throughout the seating area.

Yes that's the move I'm gravitating towards as well. Having googled the EP800 it sounds very tempting, but I think two 500 watt ported subs will out perform a 1000 watt sealed subwoofer. Sure the sealed box can deliver lower bass, but I'm thinking that the 19 hz that the EP500's go down to will be sufficient. And the ported design will ultimately move more air.

Now I'm wondering if two main towers will be enough? I'm running my system with a Denon AVR-4802 reciever that will push the center channel with 150 watts, and all 6 surrounds (the 4802 is a 7.1 channel reciever that splits the 2 rear channels up to give you the option of running 4 rears, 2 sides as well as the center & fronts... It sounds amazing!) At 150 watts per channel. To push the left and right center speakers I have a Denon PMA-2000 on the way that will send 165 watts at 4 ohms to the M80's.

The speakers I have now are Cambridge Soundworks in the rear and Cerwin Vega's up front with a 220 watt Cerwin Vega down firing sub, and it sounds really awesome. So I'm almost wondering if 1000 watts worth of bass is going to drown out the 330 watts coming out of the front main speakers? From everything I've read about them they play exceptionally loud though, so I guess we'll see.

I just wish there was a local dealer around here... I'd LOVE to give that EP800 a listen!