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Re: Onkyo 606 vid reso.
JohnK #233991 12/10/08 03:28 AM
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 Originally Posted By: JohnK
Dreamer, I've read your post three times and can't follow. What's a "ripoff"? Upscaling certainly doesn't take resolution to "pure HD quality". Assuming that your display has a 1080 native resolution everything will have to be displayed at 1080p, regardless of what it started at, by way of upscaling and/or deinterlacing in a player, the receiver or in the display itself if a previous device hasn't done it. What does "effectively eliminates video" mean?
This was description of receiver from Amazon


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Re: Onkyo 606 vid reso.
audiodreamer #233992 12/10/08 03:33 AM
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 Originally Posted By: audiodreamer
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Audiodreamer,

You may have posted it before, but what is the native resolution of your display?

resolution is 1080i


The native resolution is 1080i? What is your display if I may ask?


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Re: Onkyo 606 vid reso.
SRoode #233996 12/10/08 03:38 AM
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keep in mind that upscaling faces a tough job in essentially trying to create something out of nothing. Either your display or your receiver will be doing the upconverting in any case, if you feel that the 606 does a poor job of upscaling, your TV itself may do a better job. I too have found that for non-HD signals, my 605 usually actually makes it look a little worse for trying to upconvert than it does straight to the TV. It's one of the caveats of the receiver, the main benefit being the one wire to display.

Also keep in mind you paid ~$300 for something that does so many things, whereas for a pure upscaler you would pay at least $500 for.


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Re: Onkyo 606 vid reso.
audiodreamer #234000 12/10/08 03:43 AM
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 Originally Posted By: audiodreamer
 Originally Posted By: JohnK
Dreamer, I've read your post three times and can't follow. What's a "ripoff"? Upscaling certainly doesn't take resolution to "pure HD quality". Assuming that your display has a 1080 native resolution everything will have to be displayed at 1080p, regardless of what it started at, by way of upscaling and/or deinterlacing in a player, the receiver or in the display itself if a previous device hasn't done it. What does "effectively eliminates video" mean?
This was description of receiver from Amazon
First of all it is not a ripoff from anyone from this forum. 2nd.) The best res. I could have would be 1080i. TV and receiver. 3rd) Was under the impression that any input regardless of resolution would result in 1080i out thru HDMI. Now maybe I don't fully understand, about upscaling and deiterlacing, but I thought that with 1080i output I would have a full screen like I get with my cable. There is just so much more in my mind to say I feel like I could or would be writing a book.


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Re: Onkyo 606 vid reso.
audiodreamer #234003 12/10/08 03:46 AM
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 Originally Posted By: audiodreamer
The best res. I could have would be 1080i


I understand. What is your set's native res?


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Re: Onkyo 606 vid reso.
SRoode #234005 12/10/08 03:56 AM
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I have to go to bed so can’t wait for your reply. The “best res” of anything you will ever have is the native res of your screen. You can upscale it all you want, but if it is not the native res of your plasma/LCD/DLP it will look blurry. Set all of your devices to output at the native res of your screen (my guess, 720p).


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Re: Onkyo 606 vid reso.
SRoode #234042 12/10/08 04:44 AM
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He replied with the native res a few posts ago: 1080i


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Re: Onkyo 606 vid reso.
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 Originally Posted By: audiodreamer
Now maybe I don't fully understand, about upscaling and deiterlacing, but I thought that with 1080i output I would have a full screen like I get with my cable. There is just so much more in my mind to say I feel like I could or would be writing a book.
Are you talking about upscaling SD dvd's? IF so, they won't give you a full screen as they are not formated in the right ratio to allow for a full screen(16:9). Or are you talking about OTA signals and upscaling those?


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Re: Onkyo 606 vid reso.
jakewash #234063 12/10/08 06:01 AM
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I think i missed that as well. My sources are the same through the receiver or not as far as filling the screen goes. It it's a full screen movie you want to watch on a widescreen TV that change will have to be made on the player, or the TV.


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Re: Onkyo 606 vid reso.
Ken.C #234177 12/10/08 11:37 PM
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
He replied with the native res a few posts ago: 1080i


I know, he also PM'ed me and said it was the "best" his set could do, and wanted to know the difference between the two.

1080i native resolution is very rare. It would require a screen with 1080 pixel rows. My guess is the tv is actually a 720p native, and when you set the view to 108i, it is downconverting it which is why it does not look good.

http://whatsonhdtv.blogspot.com/2006/12/1080p-1080i-and-720p.html

Try setting all outputs to 720p and see if it looks better.


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