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Rick, aren't "personal responsibility" and "society" kind of mutually exclusive? I mean, we can each take responsibility for ourselves, and if everyone did that society would be better off, but I can't take personal responsibility for all of society. To do that would require imposing my will on others, or subjecting my will to theirs.
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Will all due respect Mark, saying that anyone but himself is responsible for his own actions is, well imo ridiculous .
We as a society should take personal responsibility a bit more serious. To blame anyone else for ones actions is a cop out.
I'm a HUGE believer in people taking responsibility for their own octions. I can't stand to see people sue McD's because they didn't know coffee was hot, or parents not letting kids take responsibility when they get into trouble. But if you lock up a man in solitary for thirty years, you gotta figure he's not going to be "right" when released. It's a bit of an extreme example, but I didn't think MJ's reality was anywhere near "real", so who am I to say that it didn't affect him? Again, I'm not really defending him (and absolutely not if the molestation charge was legit).... I'm just talking the weird skin-lightening and plastic surgery-type weirdness.
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I think as a society we have drifted away from taking responsibility for ourselves. If we were to reverse this trend imo we would be better off.
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Ditto, Rick.
I also wholeheartedly believe in meliorism.
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We as a society should take personal responsibility a bit more serious. To blame anyone else for ones actions is a cop out. As long as I can still blame my parents for my looks, we're all good.
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One could also say that the Jacksons, particularily Michael, never had a true childhood. How many times have we heard of kids being pushed/forced into showbiz by gold stricken parents? Just like Elvis, I'm sure Jackson(and other celebs) are surrounded by people who don't have their interests at heart.
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Michael Jackson's father interviewed on the red carpet, two days after his son's death. He is doing "great", has a publicist read a statement (yes he's standing right beside her) and even plugs his new record label. Oh yes, remember that "his family just lost the biggest superstar in the world".... NOT A SON!! Wow!! To say that things are a little odd is an understatement. Video
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I think it's fairly safe to say that that man's an ass.
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Couldn't have put it any better myself!
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