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Re: Help! I think I need more power.
mikeak #267646 07/31/09 05:17 AM
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I have last year's VSX-1018AH-K (which I still prefer to this year's model). I don't have M80s yet, but that's what I plan on buying. I don't have any fears about this receiver having trouble with them at least at reasonable listening levels. Considering that yours is several models above mine I don't think it'll have any problem at all with the M80s.


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Re: Help! I think I need more power.
grunt #267648 07/31/09 05:28 AM
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LOL - was thinking it was the same Grunt \:\)

not hijacking the thread - directly related go power and the Axiom speakers \:\)

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mikeak #267649 07/31/09 05:30 AM
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Chris - thanks for the quick response. Guess I am not the only one online browsing AV stuff late at night. Bet I am the only one drinking an Alaskan IPA though \:\)

I think I should be fine with the 80s just know Grunt will give me hell for not matching up the center!!!

On a serious note though the fact that Axiom does free shipping to AK makes me want to support them (OK done hijacking the thread now)

Thanks!

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mikeak #267650 07/31/09 05:47 AM
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No worries mate! Thread hijacking it a way of life here. I think it has something to do with how twisted we are.

 Originally Posted By: mikeak

Chris - thanks for the quick response. Guess I am not the only one online browsing AV stuff late at night. Bet I am the only one drinking an Alaskan IPA though


BTW we do have a thread for that. ;\)

beer thread

Notice how originally it was named too. ;\)

I like hoppy beer so how is the Alaska IPA?

All this talk of beer makes me think I should have my last Bridge Port IPA and watch the “Beer Bad” episode of “Buffy.”

Damm! Now I’m hijacking my own thread. ;\)


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grunt #267651 07/31/09 05:55 AM
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I'd probably be kicked off this forum if I let it slip that I don't drink beer.


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Re: Help! I think I need more power.
grunt #267652 07/31/09 05:57 AM
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 Originally Posted By: mikeak

I think I should be fine with the 80s just know Grunt will give me hell for not matching up the center!!!

I will go to any length to match the center.

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=219121&#Post219121


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Re: Help! I think I need more power.
ClubNeon #267653 07/31/09 06:02 AM
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 Originally Posted By: ClubNeon

I'd probably be kicked off this forum if I let it slip that I don't drink beer.

Tea totaler, or just don’t like the hoppy stuff?

First time I drank beer it was just some pissy U.S. macro-brew but I still remember thinking who can drink the bitter nasty stuff. Now I like extreeeeeeemnly hoppy (bitterness, flavor and aroma) beers. Guess it was an acquired taste.


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Re: Help! I think I need more power.
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 Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
I'd probably be kicked off this forum if I let it slip that I don't drink beer.


They'd have to kick me out, too. Wait, I'd better not give them more reason.

Re: Help! I think I need more power.
grunt #267658 07/31/09 06:30 AM
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Totally about tea here. No drink, no smoke, no drugs, no gambling.

Home entertainment is my addiction.


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Re: Help! I think I need more power.
JohnK #267698 07/31/09 06:25 PM
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 Originally Posted By: JohnK
Not necessarily, Dean. Keep in mind that when a receiver spec says something like 7x120 watts, that doesn't mean that the rating was with all seven simultaneously driven at full power. If language such as "all channels driven" isn't used, it's to be understood that the rating was with two channels driven. But as I said above, Denon and some others have tested out with all channels fairly close to the two channel rating. Again, my view is that all channels simultaneously at full power rarely happens outside test labs, but someone with a different view should consider buying a receiver rated with all channels driven or should buy only units that have published lab tests showing high all channel numbers. For example, a very inexpensive receiver that I've owned for some time was rated at 75 watts with two channels driven, but tested well above that number and at 71 watts even with all seven channels driven. Plenty of power with even my most dynamic classical recordings.



I've mentioned before that my Denon AVR-3300 is rated at 110x5 (I think?) but actually starts to clip the signal at 84 watts, according to HT Mag. On the other hand, my QSC pro amp has not clipped yet (accoridng to lights!) and can easily triple the power output.

As for pro amps, I will warn that many lack RCA inputs, so you need XLR converters if you don't have a separate pre-amp. Not a big deal in theory, but my first proamp (Crown) made noise when using the RCA to XLR convertors. Just a word of caution. Also, be careful of the noise specs on the pro amps. The Crown I had had a S/N of something like 91 or something like that, and I could hear hiss in background. My QSC is around 100 and I don't notice a hint of noise even in dead quiet passages. For a reference point, QSC's THX amps are around >105 I think.


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