Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Buying Used Speakers....

lol np dude & thanks!

The MA's just replaced my older Energy Connoisseur C5's, C-C1 and C-R1's.

What are you thoughts on the differences going from the C5's to the RS6's?

man, I aint great at giving these revues... But I can't really give an honest review at the moment, the RS6's only have 10-15 hours on them and i'm still getting use to them.

But off the bat, they have a little more bottom end to them. I find the RS6 reproduces voices better than the C5's. I was listening to Zakk Wylde's As Dead as Yesterday (just an overall killer track) last night and the acoustics sounded much fuller and better dispersed in the room. For example, when he hits the first note you can feel that deep low end (down tuned), you can almost feel the string buzzing. Better defined I can say. The C5 isnt a slouch, but the RS6 sounds a little tighter. And Zakk's voice on this one sends chills down my back now... Now I know what certain reviewers mean when they say "With eyes closed, I couldnt pin point where the voice was coming from".

Hell, I don't know if that made any sense but its prety much what I felt.

Huh! I just checked Monitor Audio's website, the RS(silver) series has now changed to the R"X"(silver) series. I wonder if they made some changes to them?

You did a great job. Your comments are similar to my thoughts if I think back to when I was looking at speakers.

They did... for starters, its a little deeper than the RS6 and they added something new to the C-CAM cones they use. The new drivers have dimples on them, kinda looks like a golf ball, they call it RST. Heres a little more info on it :

The RST cone profile comprises a radial pattern of surface dimples. Our simulations and listening tests have proved that the dimples significantly increase cone rigidity allowing C-CAM/RST cones to resist mechanical bending forces, which can twist the shape of lesser cones and produce distorted sound. The strengthening effect of the RST dimples means that we can use thinner, lighter more responsive C-CAM cones, providing speed and accuracy but offering greatly reduced distortion. The RST dimples also help to displace standing waves that can propagate on the cone's surface.

Reg. "standing waves"...I believe that is also the principle behind Scan Speak's "slit cone" drivers and also Elac is using an interesting cone profile(triangular shapes as opposed to dimpling) to make their drivers lighter and more rigid. Could be the next generation of transducer improvements?

I'm going out on a bit of a limb here having heard the MA Silver series and the Axiom M40s both in house.
If you like the clarity of the Energy Connoisseur or MA Silver series, i expect you will find the Axiom M40s to be much more recessed.

I reviewed the M40s and M60s in an A/B test in this thread some time ago. Incidentally that is also the thread where i inadvertently, but correctly guessed (i was not told at the factory tour), three major upcoming Axiom additions and changes to their product offerings.

I posted my opinions on the Monitor Audios here.

Joe, the M40 was essentially an M3 installed in a tower enclosure which was tuned for much lower bass extension. A study of the SoundStage review with NRC measurements might be helpful. Note that the measurement of the low point in the bass impedance saddle indicates that the enclosure was tuned to about 40Hz(the M3 is tuned to about 60Hz).

Hey Chess,

Thanks for the read... I was actually wondering how different the 40's sounded from the 60's. You had the "60ti" right? is there a big difference with the 60v2 ?? or is it just a new name for the same product ?

If you can, you should check out and test the RX series from MA. Not certain if you did an indept test and review of the RS line, but the RX sound different. When I did my final test on the RS6 before putting the cash down the dealer had a new pair of RX's in piano black. Had about 20 hrs of play time on them and I tested it with a few tracks I used on the RS6 and there was a decent difference between the two in the vocal range, piano seemed sharper and the notes rolled off a little faster. Sounded pretty good... I liked the RS6 more, maybe because it was properly broken in? or the fact the cone was different? but the price tag on the RX next to the RS (end of line models) helped with my final choice.

If both line where still available, I think i would have held off a month and went back to test them again side by side. Just to see if the RX sounded different after a longer period of play hours under its belt.

Johnk,

thanks for the link, ill give a read.