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Yeah Ray, audio engineers have known for many years how to make amplifiers which amplify with audible transparency. One of the great things about the modern audio scene is the availability at very modest cost of receivers which are audibly flat from 20Hz-20KHz along with inaudibly low noise and distortion. Nothing audibly better than that is possible, regardless of cost. These days no competently designed unit exhibits a sonic coloration(i.e., a "sound").

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Denon 2310CI originally mentioned use this same Anchor Bay scaling chip?

Oh yeah, it does. Sorry for the confusion. I was reading Denon's detailed specs wrong. They list two different scaler chips there, but don't have checks next to either. But on the textual description it does say it has the Anchor Bay VRS ABT-2010. So as long as Denon implemented chip correctly, you can pass on the external scaler. Additionally, that ups my vote to putting the Denon with the Pioneer display.

Good catch, thanks.

That definitely seems to be a reason to go ahead and put the Denon in the basement, where I do my real TV viewing. That's what I'll do.

You all are a great resource for those of us who only dabble and can't figure most things out on our own (and I'm sure for those who know a LOT more than I do). A lot of this is hard to understand without a dumbed down explanation. It is very much appreciated.

It is that ABT chip in the Denons that has me looking at a new one to replace the 3808

Guys, do you know if the 2310 will convert all HDMI inputs to 1080p before sending them to the display? Right now I am letting my projector do the de-interlacing (BD player not included) because I thought the 2310 would only convert analog sources to 1080p and then output over HDMI. I have been looking in the manual and cannot find if it will do it with digital inputs. With my cable box or HD-DVD player, the projector is being fed a 1080i signal, not 1080p. Perhaps the results would be better letting the 2310 de-interlace?

Edit: Looks like it can, need to try that tonight

Yes, I've been looking at upgrading my receiver, as it doesn't handle HDMI of any sorts, and the analog audio work-around for my Blu-ray player throws everything else out of whack. The rave reviews the Oppo player has been getting has made my look at the Denon 2310 since it has the same scaler chip, though I realize that doesn't necessarily mean video performance will be equal to the Oppo's.

Let us know how well the Denon handles the upscaling.

Just an FYI--according to the AVS website, the Denon 890 is the same as the 2310 in all respects except the following: "1. the 2310CI has a second, Zone 2 remote in addition to the two-sided regular remote 2. the 2310CI adds 'CI' features for integration into automated, custom integrated home systems: an RS-232 port (e.g. for Crestron/AMX 3rd-party control, as well as for loading firmware updates), assignable 12V trigger" Typically the 890 is about US$50 cheaper than the 2310. I ended up with the 2310 only because I found a good sale on it that actually made it a few bucks cheaper than the 890 (which I had purchased but then returned).

They look slightly different as well, if that matters to anyone. Small differences though.

Its refreshing to read this, and to have it supported on an audio forum after years of reading bunk about the sound coloration of what are largely transparent devices.

Don't tell anyone, but I'm using auto-electrical cable in my HT... three times the copper and half the price of even bulk "speaker" cable.