Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Anyone running M80s off an emotiva UPA-7?

The relatively new pre-order list is for the UMC-1 NOT the XMC-1.
I doubt anything will be even mentioned about the XMC-1 until all the UMC-1 orders are finally filled.

In relation to the other suggestions that were made, unfortunately the Integra and to a lesser extent the Onkyo products, despite the high Canadian dollar, are GROSSLY over priced in Canada and the local distributor refuses to update that situation with his retailers, two of whom I deal with, who literally have thrown their hands up in the air with regard to the pricing.

The Integra DHC 40.1 has an MSRP of $1299US, while the local retailers in the GTA want $1800CDN and $2800CDN for the 80.1 and that is despite a Canadian dollar running around 94-95 cents! The Onkyo Pre-Pro is their "professional" version and not even available at this time in Canada. It looks like the Outlaw 997 is still "months" away.

So unless one is willing to cross the border and pay the duty, the UMC-1 looks like the closest to filling the needs of someone who wants a Pre-Pro at a "reasonable" price.

I was on the wait list for the UMC and finally gave up.I did happen to get a good deal on a Integra DHC9.9 from my local dealer.If it wasn't for that, then I would of held for the UMC1.At$699.US it would come it at about $1,000.CDN.Not many pre/pros you can buy up here for that, also the reason I picked up a LPA1 for $499 way back when.By the way DHC+LPA+Axioms=Sweetness!

Hopefully, the 9.9 was a good deal for you since the one retailer I know who had one still wanted $1800 for it although it is basically now a "discontinued" product. Still too much money .

I have an LPA-1, which is the same thing as the UPA-7 except that the 6+7 channels on the UPA are the same as the 1-5, whereas on the LPA-1 the 6/7 channels are handled by less powerful amps. So, the UPA-7 is superior. I've had the LPA-1 for almost 3 years now.

No problems at all running my M80V2's, VP150, and QS8's. M80's are bi-wired/bi-amped on channels 1/2 and 3/4, VP150 is on 5, QS8's are on 6 and 7. Very happy with the setup. Beautiful, crisp, clear sound. Out to and beyond LOUD levels.

I have had one shutdown problem. But I caused it by stupidly and accidentally shorting a speaker wire while moving a speaker when my system was powered up. It correctly shut itself down when that happened. Powered right back up after cycling the power.

Others have had problems with Emo's higher-end amps, running various 4-ohm speakers (not just M80's). But I don't recall ever reading of anyone having problems with the "low end" amps and 4-ohm speakers.

I don't know if it has been mentioned in this thread but the UMC-1 is being delayed...again. For those still interested in this product you should go over to their forums and read up on the latest information .

It is crazy over there. Dan sending out private messages to everyone to remain calm and respect each other, rampant flame wars, breakdown of discussion, ugly name calling, etc. The Emo Lounge is not a happy family right now. Very "emo" indeed.

Now I like my LPA-1, but the UMC-1 gets my vote for the Home Theater Vaporware product of the decade. They've been saying "soon" for three years now. The whole UMC-1 debacle is absolutely ridiculous. I had been on the pre-order list for 2.5 years when I finally decided that enough was enough and canceled. I wish the UMC-1 well, but I decided months ago that I'm not waiting for it any longer. It may be the best prepro ever made, but I've lost a lot of confidence in Emotiva's abilities because of this whole mess.

Of course, my alternative to the UMC-1 was always going to be the Outlaw 990 ... <crickets chirping>

Before long, I'm going to be driven back into the mass-market arms of Denon or Pioneer. Perhaps overpriced, but at least they're able to get stuff done.

Unless they're Sherwood Newcastle.

I was looking forward to the Outlaw, but have given up on it. Now, the Onkyo Pro PR-SC5507P has my eye.

It would seem that Emotiva and Outlaw have the same problems but for different reasons.

Emotiva is pretty much building a unit from the ground up while Outlaw got in bed with a company(Sherwood Newcastle)who has always been notoriously late with introduction of its products. It looks like, since they have little or no control over the hardware and software issues, by the time it comes to market(if it comes to market)the Outlaw 997 could already be two generations behind the mainstream products hence the price they would be asking would be "way out of line". I gather since they hooked up with Onkyo to sell its Pre-Pro they must be getting worried.

Despite its issues, it looks like Emotiva is at least in control of its own product and the price point for the UMC-1 is without competition.

Either way it is unfortunate and one would hope that this doesn't cause too much damage to these companies reputations(and bottom line) since they sell great products at great price points. Unfortunately, based on the forums, it looks like a significant number of people have tired of waiting and jumped ship to the mainstream manufacturers.

xpa5 + m80v2's here with no problems only sonic bliss....