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Good point. You certainly couldn't expect the same bass extension.

But there's just not enough difference - to me - between a full-format VP160 and the VP180 to make it worth doing.

You're right that my thinking on this is back-asswards; trying to decide on the box and drivers FIRST is nuts. But, you know, Ian does perform miracles sometimes and Andrew brought it up. I'm just playing along.

If the box were sealed, it would be somewhat smaller than the ported M60 cabinets, no?

I know I've been shouted down a bit here, but I think that what Axiom really needs are surrounds to compliment the M80s and new VP180. Maybe called the QS80.

There are 3 types of floor standing mains, 3 types of centers now, but still only 2 types of surrounds. Surrounds that could go as low as at least 60Hz would be great. Maybe something as simple as replacing one of the mids with a woofer, and making the box a little bigger (or ported).

I know I'd buy them.

Still unlikely to sound the same.

Agreed Ken (and I don't want to thread jack this one any further), but surrounds that could go lower and match more closely would be nice.

sroode, the only reason i can think not to do what you are saying. Is, how much audio does the surrounds really see? Also what kind.. most of the movies i watch, its just random noise, not usually music, or voices (well sometimes, but not that often)... if the surrounds were used more often i could see it....

It's more than for movies, at least for me since I listen to music more than watching movies. Most people would have said the same thing about center channels, but in reality (or maybe just my opinion) you want all of your speakers to be closely matched and able to reproduce any frequency to truly duplicate reality.

Most people will not listen in 7 channel stereo mode for this reason alone. If what you say is true, the surrounds may just as well be cubes like Bose puts out. I've had them, and they suck.

Again, I'm thread jacking and being a little selfish, but just as I hoped that a center that could match the M80 would sound spectacular (and it more than did!) I know that surrounds that could reach lower would really complete the experience.

you are dead on with the center though. in movies 70% of the dialog comes from the center. so you do want a large center.. like i've said in other threads I've been asking if they were working on one for a year now... but never though to get them to make a custom one.... now i need to decide when/if i am going to get a new center... I REALLY want a wilson center... but i don't have 6k$ atm for a used center channel....

i wish, that they would use 7" woffers

I'd try the VP180 if I were you (not sure what your other speakers are). It's a fantastic center channel, and if you don't like it you can just pay the shipping to send it back. IMO, if you are looking in the $6k used price range, you can easily afford the $50 or so to "rent" the speaker for a month to see if it's what you want.

I think you will be more than happy with it.

Stevereeno:
I gotta agree with you on the surrounds. For SACD and DVD-A discs, the fuller-the-range the better! Of course, that applies to the center even more so!