 Re: I just ordered a pair of M3 v3 Bookshelf Speakers
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Stop veering on topic dammit! then we're talking about sprinklers, and now we're talking about speakers from a company that rhyme with "hose" So, if you hook your hose up to the Bose and turn the water on does it give you liqid smooth mids? Where all the grass is dead and spotted, that is where the water rolled off. Didn't get enough water.
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The termed "bass module" tipped that one off? LOL. Disturbingly enough, no. I actually recognized the response curves. On the other hand, I completely missed the reference to "bass module" 
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Mark, I heard that on the new xx11 models Denon did drop the "crap" setting. Reminds me of one of the sections in Dr. Toole's book where he illustrates a speaker dial with settings "Me", "Sam", "Susan", etc., in a sarcastic comment on the belief of some that "personal preferences" should be accommodated.
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Yeah, don't make Scott's mistake. Personally, I'm baffled as to why Denon still includes the setting.  That's AWESOME !!!! And I don't even have a Denon. Scott
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Objectively the M22 is the more accurate speaker. Anechoically, measured with a microphone. My room isn't anechoic and I listen with my ears. Room acoustics and speaker placement make a huge difference in frequency response and listening enjoyment. Continuing to harp on "accuracy" and "objectivity" while simultaneously admitting that enjoyment is subjective and that some listeners prefer clinically "less accurate" signatures doesn't make sense to me. Fundamentally, I just don't believe you can measure and quantify everything about the listening experience. Many speakers that are widely regarded as excellent have truly crappy looking graphs. Holy Samolies !!! Tom Tuttle is a mystic after all. Tom, I agree with everything you said in your post. Subjectively speaking, I have a pair of M22V2s and still have a pair of M3V2.5s as well. Subjectively speaking, there is no comparison as far as I'm concerned. I'll listen to the M3s all day long without a sub. M22s? about half an hour if I'm distracted.
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Well, Phil, I guess your sig line finally sunk in 
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Very well said Tom, I couldn't agree with you more. It doesn't matter how many times I put my ear up to all these graphs I still can't hear any difference. 
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I didn't know the anechoic chamber purpose was just there to look pretty in the factory.
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