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Audyssey alters the response of the actual speaker itself and not that of the room despite being regarding as a room correction program.
Therefore Audyssey will make a difference. Whether you like it better with Audyssey equalization on or off will be different from user to user. There is not a absolute answer. Pick which one you prefer.
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True Grunt, but at least I have actually used Audyssey for years with my Axioms with great results and flatter graph response. Unlike those that have never used Audyssey and make comments to the contrary based on assumption.
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True Grunt, but at least I have actually used Audyssey for years with my Axioms with great results and flatter graph response. Unlike those that have never used Audyssey and make comments to the contrary based on assumption. That's an odd comment and making assumptions for people that don't like it never used it.
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That's an odd comment and making assumptions for people that don't like it never used it.
My thoughts exactly . . . . Don’t forget there are also those of us who just don’t know how to use it properly either.
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Everyone's entitled to an opinion, as long as it's the same as mine.
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It is a fact, not opinion, that you can't solve a time domain problem in the frequency domain.
I've read Audyssey's white papers, and they have some impressive tech that goes a long way to fool the ear. But in the end, real improvements can only be made with physical room treatments.
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Sirquack, I don’t ever recall saying that your experience and satisfaction with Audyssey are invalid because of my experience. However, you often content that my experiences, and those of others who prefers not to use Audyssey are in fact invalid because it works for you and many others.
Given the complexity of any audio system in dissimilar rooms with different listeners any one-size-fits-all solution is inherently problematic. Just to many variables most salient of which is personal preference.
I have no doubt that I have run Audyssey more times than you probably ever will, and done it properly since following a checklist is not that difficult especially for someone who does so for a living. Done it in 3 different rooms with different levels of performance each time. While using a total of 3 different variations of Audyssey.
I can say without reservation that the only thing Audyssey, in my receiver, improves in my present room is the width of the front soundstage by allowing the use of wide speakers. Yes that’s my opinion and I’ve never tried to force it on you or anyone else. I encourage people to try Audyssey since they paid for it. However, I also encourage them to listen to what their ears, not other people who’ve never heard their system, are telling them which in the end is what really matters IMO.
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Everyone's entitled to an opinion, as long as it's the same as mine. Sounds like a government entitlement system.
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I have never heard or used Audyssey. While reading about room treatments on Real Traps website they say that Audyssey can fix the the peaks in frequency response but could not fill in the deep nulls because it would be asking too much of the amplifier.
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Yeah, Audyssey can pull down the peaks (frequency domain), but it can't fix early reflections that cause smearing (time domain). Audyssey actually does quiet the attack of some frequencies that are prone to reverberation. Pulling down peaks in the bass range is just treating a symptom. Standing waves are also a time problem, and are best handled by not letting them form.
So yeah, neat tricks. And if it is included in the receiver you own, it may be worth it (since it's pretty much free). But fixing the room is the real solution.
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