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It was nice to see Pakistan extend an olive branch in this take down. Hopefully this can set a precedent going forward with their relations. Going a little ways back in the thread, but an olive branch from Pakistan? I'm not sure how you see it that way. From what I can tell: 1. He was hiding in their country, practically next store to one of their biggest military compounds. 2. We went in to take him out without getting an ok from Pakistan first, since we didn't trust that they would not tip him off. I believe Pakistan was knowingly hiding him in their country. We'll see what if any fallout comes from that, or if the administration concludes that they really didn't know he was there, which I find hard to believe.
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Yes, that is true. If we had put a JDAM down his noggin, that would be fine - target command and control. But, the guy was in a bathrobe. Under the law of war I don't think it is OK to just shoot the guy.
Of course we have no idea what really happened. For all I know, Osama is in the brig of a US Aircraft Carrier engaged in conversations with professionals. However, if he was standing in his bedroom, unarmed and asked to surrender, and said "La" Arabic for "no," I don't know that shooting the guy was lawful.
Don't get me wrong. I'm perfectly at peace with the idea of the demons of hell picking at his entrails for all eternity (metaphoric of course), it's the effect on our democratic institutions of this barbaric religious war which is being waged against the non Muslim civilization.
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It was nice to see Pakistan extend an olive branch in this take down. Hopefully this can set a precedent going forward with their relations. Going a little ways back in the thread, but an olive branch from Pakistan? I'm not sure how you see it that way. From what I can tell: 1. He was hiding in their country, practically next store to one of their biggest military compounds. 2. We went in to take him out without getting an ok from Pakistan first, since we didn't trust that they would not tip him off. I believe Pakistan was knowingly hiding him in their country. We'll see what if any fallout comes from that, or if the administration concludes that they really didn't know he was there, which I find hard to believe. Agree 100%. Pakistan is a double dealing terror state with nukes. Ask the Indians. Mumbai.
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It was nice to see Pakistan extend an olive branch in this take down. Hopefully this can set a precedent going forward with their relations. Going a little ways back in the thread, but an olive branch from Pakistan? I'm not sure how you see it that way. From what I can tell: 1. He was hiding in their country, practically next store to one of their biggest military compounds. 2. We went in to take him out without getting an ok from Pakistan first, since we didn't trust that they would not tip him off. I believe Pakistan was knowingly hiding him in their country. We'll see what if any fallout comes from that, or if the administration concludes that they really didn't know he was there, which I find hard to believe. There is a lot of new information out there now. The initial response was that of thanks to Pakistan in their involvement. The new information is disturbing and they need to answer some tough questions. In hindsight, Pakistan could have made this situation much worse if they retaliated to the invasion on their home soil by shooting down the planes, having the government condemn their actions etc.
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I'd be willing to bet that if all governments and fanatical individuals were removed from the earth, that everyone would probably get along just fine.
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Who would decide who is considered fanatical though? The government? Ooops, we got rid of them. The people? Good luck getting consensus. Maybe an alien race comes and does this for us. Of course, we'd all consider them oppressors then and unite to fight the aliens.
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You don't really believe that, do you, catbrat?
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Ask Laura Logan. That wasn't hundreds of government agents who had unconsented-to intimate relations with her in broad daylight, in the middle of the street while they chanted, "Jew, Jew ..."
The world's population is about 7 billion. What size world population do you think a world without governments could support?
Will it be the strong who survive at the expense of the weak?
Cat, who would protect you and your lolly pop from the big bad men?
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lol. Never mind. I'd just stick my head back in the sand, but I can't get the rose colored glasses off.
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You're OK. You just think you live in a better world than this one.
Your avatar is still scary.
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