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Re: integrated amp for the M3ti
#37254 03/16/04 11:51 PM
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bad qaqc is unforgivable.

I think Axiom suggests 50% of your audio budget should be spent on speakers, but that would only leave me $360 for an integrated and cd player. I think I'll at least double that. I'll check out those other manufacturers. Thanks for the tips and I'll let you know how the final package sounds.

Re: integrated amp for the M3ti
#37255 03/17/04 12:53 AM
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Paulu, you've decided on a solid state integrated amp, so I won't suggest tube amps even if they will sound better with the M3s. There are those who say amps have no real effect on the sound produced. If you are comfortable with that theory then get the cheapest amp of whatever output you can find - your best bet probably used.

Are you adventurous? An early adopter? I know which solid state amp I've been thinking about trying - The Flying Mole. Yes, that's right, the Flying Mole - not integrated - monoblocks which are said to sound like a good tube amp.

Here's a review:
http://www.stereotimes.com/amp021804.shtm

Here's a picture:


Here's the Japanese website for Flying Mole
http://www.flyingmole.co.jp/en/products/dadm100pro/index.html

Of course you have to beware of a stiff breeze as they only weight 1.4 lbs each.


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Re: integrated amp for the M3ti
#37256 03/17/04 12:56 AM
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In some industries it can be life altering.....

I don't want to start a "thread" (duck...as the members say....) but I have always felt that the best speakers attached to bad upstream components will allow you to hear how badly they (components) are. However, decent speakers attached to "better" components will allow you to hear the accurate ( relative) music reproduction. Poor sources cannot rely on the speakers to "insert" the missing musical information.

I believe that the sources are the most important pieces in a system. Yes, I understand this is a board hosted by a speaker mfg'er......and would stop short of suggesting there is motive behind the ratio for spending your hard earned dollars.

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#37257 03/17/04 01:08 AM
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I agree with the proposition that the source is the most important component up-stream of the speakers!

But wait, don't all CD players sound the same? Answer - No, they don't.


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Re: integrated amp for the M3ti
#37258 03/17/04 01:10 AM
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Of course. They'll sound different with each CD you put in them.

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#37259 03/17/04 01:12 AM
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Peter...that was perfect. Literally laughing out loud at my desk here.



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#37260 03/17/04 01:24 AM
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Good one, Peter.


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#37261 03/17/04 04:03 AM
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That is funny


but honestly... if a CD player is plugged into your integrated amp using a digital connection, the player doesn't really matter (unless it's a real piece of you know what). If it's sending the stereo signal analog, then the player does make a difference because it is decoding the 1's and 0's into music.

i'd buy used stuff, a safe 500 bucks for both the player and the amp. you don't want bad electronics ruining such good speakers.

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#37262 03/17/04 06:55 AM
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I think Axiom suggests 50% of your audio budget should be spent on speakers, but that would only leave me $360 for an integrated and cd player.



Well... the 50% I'm sure is more aimed towards a full 5.1/6.1 system.

If I'd paid retail for my electronics, I'll end at about the following:
Speakers - 50%
Electronics - 36%
Stands - 8.5%
Cables/Wire - 5.5%

Speaking of wire - I ordered the Axiom bulk speaker cable, I know a few of the guys around here were wondering what it was like, I can give an opinion by probably Thursday.

(C'mon Peter - I'm leaving you this opportunity for a joke like "Upon receiving the wire, I found that it was made of copper and came with an insulator - same as every other hank of wire!")

Bren R.

Re: integrated amp for the M3ti
#37263 03/17/04 04:26 PM
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2x6,

Is your Ah! CDP connected to your other components digitally or via analog outs?

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