Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion The Water Cooler Comb Filtering - AVS Thread

I looked for combs and filters, and didn't see any causing problems.

Ian and I did chat a bit about comb filtering, and he said something that I never thought of...

If you have a 2-speaker stereo setup for listening to anything, then those 2 stereo speakers are creating comb filtering. The only way to eliminate comb filtering in that situation is to go to a single mono speaker, and who wants to listen to anything in mono?

Just by going from mono to stereo creates comb filtering just like what happens when center channel speakers have more than 1 tweeter in the same plane.

Audiophiles don't complain about comb filtering with their stereo setups, and blind testing (per Ian) proves that people LIKE and PREFER the comb filtering stereo setup over a mono speaker.

Imagine the comb filtering going on inside a car with the tweeters facing up toward the windshield. It is a great topic for controversy , just don't take it personal.

DrStrangeQuark, any progress in your setup you want to share?

I'm bald, so I guess it's nothing that I have to worry about

Random thoughts ...

1. Ian needs to stop with logic and reason. That confuses people.
2. It's too bad Axiom doesn't make a center channel with either the standard MTM design in the $300 range or a vertically mounted midrange / tweeter in the $700 range.
3. Does anyone still go to AVS?

I go in there several times per day just to keep an eye on things. I post only when absolutely required & even then, I tread very softly. I am happy to report that things have quieted down dramatically (re Axiom) in the past year & hopefully it will stay that way.

I was able to snag a new VP160 from the deals section for $320 last year. I've been more than happy with it - accurate, powerful & clear. No comb filtering within our normal listening area that I can ascertain.

As I've pointed out in several threads over at AVS based on my listening, this is a condition that I believe is highly overblown & exaggerated & is not a significant factor in most Home Theaters. I suspect that horizontal CC Speakers generally work just fine in most setups...

TAM

Tam - That was my personal sarcasm on the "science" of that place. It's always amusing how people will slam a product without hearing it.

I have a 10 year old 150 here, and it still functions great.

For a brief history, from 2010 until 2014, I was "in the industry" as a home theater company with my brother as a partner - and did on line reviews from 2001 until 2010.

The review side will be starting again this year, and Ian was the first manufacturer to respond in a positive manner when I wrote him.

While this won't get him any special treatment in reviews (nor would he ever ask for this), it does warrant mention and appreciation.

The old review process I did was unusual - I would buy the products, review them, then sell them, with critical listening being done blind.

It's a lot of fun, and the process will be public on Home Theater Shack - look for a much nicer experience there.

Hi Craig. Good to see you popping up around here again. Looking forward to the reviews and to hearing the M1s.

I really liked your sub ranking list. Welcome back to Axiom. Many of us here share dual citizenship between Axiom/HTS and some also at AVS. I used to partake in AVS fun, until I realised it wasnt so fun there afterall. Waaaay to serious and catty. So many EXTREMELY helpful posters there. But great content and news reporting. Love their podcasts.

Again welcome back.

HTS is definitely a cut above the other 2 big audio web sites out there IMO.

I visit HTS daily as well, but having a more mature & less argumentative membership there, I don't have the requirement to post as often. Thankfully, every manufacturer seems to get a fair shake & HTS doesn't put up with the BS that others out there do.

Looking forward to your new endeavours there...

TAM