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Re: Update the grills?
Ken.C #412114 05/12/15 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ken.C
I would imagine extending the cabinet would have adverse effects on the audio, due to boundary effects blah de blah blah.


Well, I can see I'm not needed around here anymore.

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If you're watching something, look at the screen. When you're listening to music, close your eyes. Whaddya want, black strands of spaghetti, like a Sonus-Faber? Or how about a gourd sitting atop the cabinet, like a B & W?


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Re: Update the grills?
Newf #412116 05/12/15 08:14 PM
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Grilles are super ugly dust collectors. Mine have never left the box. They are allergic to sunlight and smoking as well. Make great cat scratching posts. laugh

If you want high dollar looks usually it means high dollar 2ch brands as Bob mentioned. Gourds! Lol. HT speakers dont get a lot of love cosmetics wise.... If you roll in the hay with ugly speakers, just turn the lights off. laugh

Re: Update the grills?
Newf #412118 05/12/15 11:28 PM
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Could not disagree more. Screens are a necessity unless you live alone. Even then I'd cover them to protect from the sun drying them out. Plenty of affordable (even more affordable then Axiom) speakers have screens that blend nicely with the cabinets. Even the cheap Polks I just replaced with the on walls had thin screens on them that you couldn't see unless you looked. You also do not need to change the internals of the cabinet at all. Either go very thin screens or put a small lip on the outer edge and have the screen sit flush behind it. Or recess the entire middle section where the drivers go an 1/8th of an inch and put a thin screen on it.

There are countless options and designs. You guy aren't thinking outside of the box. The trick is keeping the factory assembly and vinyl application process easy. But, there's no denying that Axiom needs a little face lift. Excellent finishes and all are nice, but when your new speakers look identical to a set from almost 15 years ago....

And look at my signature. If I thought they were ugly I wouldn't have a house full of them. This is just minor cosmetic pet peeve.

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Re: Update the grills?
AAAA #412119 05/13/15 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: Serenity_Now
HT speakers dont get a lot of love cosmetics wise.... If you roll in the hay with ugly speakers, just turn the lights off. laugh


Ive been with ugly speakers before........it just really sucks when you wake up next to them.......
Oh wait, wrong forum......


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Newf #412121 05/13/15 08:50 AM
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Axiom's focus has always been function over form. The cabinets are a little dated for sure. But IMO there are also uglier "better" speakers out there for sure.

Could you make or modify the grilles to meet your needs? You can use the existing as a template and cut the new grill backer out of 1/8" plexiglass or similar. Then wrap in speakercloth and spray adhere on the back. You can use sticky tac to adhere it to the cabinet (it is removable and leaves no residue.)

Re: Update the grills?
theskins #412122 05/13/15 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: theskins
Originally Posted By: Serenity_Now
HT speakers dont get a lot of love cosmetics wise.... If you roll in the hay with ugly speakers, just turn the lights off. laugh


Ive been with ugly speakers before........it just really sucks when you wake up next to them.......
Oh wait, wrong forum......


56 posts in 11 years! Good one! Worth the wait!


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Re: Update the grills?
BobKay #412123 05/13/15 03:49 PM
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OK, I'll admit it. When I first saw those 3 separate diagonal grills on the LF-100 and M100, I wasn't thrilled at the look.

Now that they've been in my face for 18 months, I've become inured. I'm sure they had some reasons, but I didn't understand why it wasn't a single grille.

And I agree with Newf that, if you don't live alone, sans grilles is not an option. Hell, I almost spilled a glass of OJ myself into my ep500 on it's 2nd day in the house! The grille saved me.

The M60's look really good, because the grilles still leave a nice amount of exposed wood on the bottom. Well, for me it's wood. For most of you it's plastic. If youre not gonna get any wood and you're gonna get "plastic," then you should visit Mark's Uncle, "Doc's" website.

So, the only question is, "If the speakers were touching sides, would the grille "chevron" point up or down?"

Mine point up, based on the design theories of 19thC Brit, Ogden Rood; diagonal up = happy, diagonal down = sad. Of course, he forgot to factor in that we read left to right, so he was unaware that it's cultural. Sorry, what were we talking about?

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Re: Update the grills?
Newf #412124 05/13/15 04:01 PM
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My HG Rosewood M22s & EP800s look fabulous (IMO) with a nice amount of real wood showing around the grills.

Their similar tall, slender form factor complement each other...

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Re: Update the grills?
BobKay #412125 05/13/15 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted By: BobKay

Now that they've been in my face for 18 months, I've become inured. I'm sure they had some reasons, but I didn't understand why it wasn't a single grille.

If i recall, Ian answered this question some time ago, either on the forums or perhaps i asked in person, i don't recall.
The reply had something to do with a production issue. Either they could only produce a grille of a maximum size or that producing a grille that tall was too flimsy, etc. There was a technical reason for having to split the large grilles into three pieces.


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Re: Update the grills?
Newf #412126 05/13/15 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: newf
This is just minor cosmetic pet peeve.

And other folk such as myself like the grilles as is.
I'm not a fan of the stealth bomber look for speaker grilles; the attempt to make them slim inline, no edges visible, wrap around style.
That doesn't appeal to me.

What someone else calls an 'update', another person calls a mangling of classic style.


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