Re: A six month long test of an Axiom Tower vs. ???
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D Rasco stated about 'The Beast' as he calls it:
"The bass that the EP800 puts out is deep, rich, solid, very tight, impactful and unblemished."
My sentiments as well. I have a pair of Refurbed EP800 V3s HG Rosewood in a 2450 cu ft room. I can't imagine needing anymore than what I have.
They are as impressive to look at as they are to experience them shake the neighbourhood & I don't ever run my system over -10 DB for movie watching, ha!
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Re: A six month long test of an Axiom Tower vs. ???
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Guys - This was posted at Home Theater Shack earlier tonight:
It's time for a quick update - The last few days have been really hectic. My "day job" is working finance in the auto industry, and the end of the month is crazy, thus the lack of posts.
Saturday was a rainy mess here, so I took the time to dial in an Axiom EP-800 subwoofer with the Legacy's and M100's. After playing around, a crossover of 60 Hz was set for both speakers.
The effect is remarkable - one thing I noticed about the EP-800 is how easy it is to integrate into a music system.
By removing the bass below 60 Hz (and keeping in mind, this crossover means both the subwoofer and speakers are down 3 dB at 60 Hz, with a 12 dB per octave roll off - not a brick wall) from the main speakers and the amp section of the Marantz, the improvement in soundstage is noticeable, as is detail in every respect.
The bass quality in the EP-800 is the best I have heard, and this includes some very fine subwoofer systems from JL Audio, Velodyne and a host of ID companies, including our own. There will be more on this later, as more listening is done.
For now - either the Legacy's (and I am sure Bill's subwoofers would have a similar effect) or the Axiom's combined with the EP-800 enter into "super speaker" territory in terms of delivering the goods.
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The bass quality in the EP-800 is the best I have heard, and this includes some very fine subwoofer systems from JL Audio, Velodyne and a host of ID companies, including our own. There will be more on this later, as more listening is done. Wow, high praise.
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The bass quality in the EP-800 is the best I have heard, and this includes some very fine subwoofer systems from JL Audio, Velodyne and a host of ID companies, including our own. There will be more on this later, as more listening is done. Thanks for posting that. I was stuck in trepidation about ordering a pair of EP500. I was over at a friends house who had purchased an SVS sub and was raving about how much better it was than his previous one and cost $700. Here I was with 26k worth of sub on the way fearing that I just wasted my money.
Anthem: AVM60, Fosi DAC-Q5 Axiom: ADA1500, LFR1100 Actiive, QS8, EP500, M3, M3comp, M5
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Craig, can you give us an idea of where you put it and its gain setting. I'm also curious about the size of your room. (Think you posted details somewhere.) Give "Hyper-ballad" by Bjork a spin. 34hz 37hz 40hz never sounded so good. A bass reference test with pretty vocals attached. Lol. A different song without a sub altogether. The bass line adds a foreboding dark undertone to the track to match the lyrical content. Good argument for subs in stereo listening. Would be interested in your impression of the M100s with and without subs on this track.
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For music listening, the sub is running 2 dB above the reference 75 dB of the main speakers, and for movies, I decided to have fun and set it 8 dB above the mains.
The system is set as follows in our room ... Legacy Signatures are speaker A, M100's are speaker B, and the sub is S ...
A.B ......... A.B.S
As with the speakers, for the purpose of this test, the EP-800 is away from boundaries.
Our room is 44x14.5x7 feet.
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I am not having any luck finding the Bjork disc. Bummer.
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I am not having any luck finding the Bjork disc. Bummer. Definitely worth finding. "Hyper-ballad" is one of the first tracks that made me smile big when I got my EP600 back in the day.
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House of the Rising Sone Out in the mid or far field Linearity and mid-woofers are over-rated
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Guys ... just posted this today on Home Theater Shack:
Good morning all - It has been an incredibly busy week since the last update. The busy has been mostly business related with some bad golf thrown into the mix.
There has been little time for listening, but the listening sessions are still confirming that these are two remarkable loudspeaker systems. The level of detail is astonishing on both, as is that rare "musicality" that we all seek.
This is the first time in years that I have had speakers that make me want to get out old discs and order new ones. They both remind me why I loved stereo sound for so long.
The "BIG" news is ... the switcher has been ordered. Before long, we will be able to do blind tests with remote control operated switching. Level matching will be done at the pre-amp level.
I don't think any magazine outside Soundstage has this ability. This fall and winter will see a lot more done, as indoor season lends itself to this.
We will be adding two more pairs of speakers to testing in the fall - starting in October. If anyone has a suggestion .. or even wants to start a new thread with a poll, feel free.
I would also love to have a small GTG style weekend with maybe 3 listeners to do some serious blind A/B testing. If there is enough interest, we could do 3 or 4 of these from November to April.
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