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Re: LFR180
TroyD #424120 03/15/17 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted By TroyD

something with great binding posts and great rid of those cheap black n red nuts. They make it look cheap.


I like the old clear ones. To me they felt nicer and,IMHO, they looked better too.



Re: LFR180
Mojo #424138 03/16/17 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted By Mojo
I would trade in the M22s for the M5HPs and be very happy doing it. I am betting the M5HPs will sound better than my M80v2.

What makes you think the midrange driver needs improvement?

I personally don't want to pay for fancier terminals.


As for the terminals, just on the HP line of speakers or even the real wood orders.
And yes I like those clear ones too.

Yes, I think I would/will be very happy with those M5HP. Just got a few other things to get first, QS8's and EP500. then upgrade the M22.

Not so much " It needs Improvement " but I didn't think the tweeter needed improvement, either. Just, the tweeter had improvements done. The Woofers had an upgrade for better higher performance. If the tweeter and woofers and cross overs needed improvement, just think the 5.25" could get some lovin too, I mean this is probably the most important and used driver of them all. I mean we set the M80's to small throw in a sub and let it take over at 80hz. given the mid starts at what 100 hz to 2khz it is the most used, give it some love, thats where the noticeable difference will be. I mean with my M80, I would almost bet my paycheck if the M80v4 and M80HPv4 are side be side with A/B switching and dual EP500 subs. You would not tell the difference.
Turn off the subs, yeh I can see how you would.
However, the sub does not play in the mid range frequencies,


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Re: LFR180
Ian #424139 03/16/17 04:32 AM
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and just think, if the mid range got some love, just how much those M22's and M2's would sound wink


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Re: LFR180
Ian #424149 03/16/17 06:18 PM
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...and how much more they'd cost.

Change for the sake of change doesn't equal "improvement". I'm sure that when/if Ian is convinced he CAN make a "better" midrange, he will do so. Why wouldn't he?


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Re: LFR180
Ian #424222 03/18/17 09:40 PM
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The LFR180 looks like a tremendous addition to the line up - if I already didn't have a VP180 HP, it would be an easy decision.

As for the "Stale" look of the Axioms ... My Klipsch La Scala II's have the same basic look going back about 50 years (when the Belle Klipsch was the "domestic" version of the La Scala - now all La Scala's have that look), as do the Klipschorn and Heresy models.

I think the look on the Axiom, especially with wood finish, is classic and beautiful. I far prefer it to the "bent veneer - polished look" of all the stuff coming out of China.

For whatever reason, there is a group of on line guys who just have to "rag" on Axiom products.

Re: LFR180
Ian #424223 03/18/17 10:24 PM
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It is a real shame that more people cant opt for the real wood option, this is where imho the Axioms speakers look their absolute best.


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Re: LFR180
Ian #424239 03/19/17 03:43 AM
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I've experienced it and have read where people really need to check to see if real wood was shipped by mistake.
When I unboxed my current M80's I was very impressed with the finish.
It truly is a shame they are behind a screen.
I might order a pair off the refurb site and swap out the L&R once my youngest is heavier than the speaker.
That or maybe go the real wood route but only to get the green I seen 2-3 years ago. They were beautiful (to me).



Re: LFR180
Ian #424242 03/19/17 03:59 AM
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I was not implying the vinyl is not top notch but its still second to a real wood finish. I like shiny stuff and multiple coats of urethane over the wood looks so much more upscale, at least for me it does. Since you have yours behind your screen i would not really worry about it. I grew up in home where the stereo was the center piece of our living room, my moms china cabinet played second fiddle (sic) . LOL .


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Re: LFR180
Gr8_White_North #424252 03/19/17 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Socketman
I grew up in home where the stereo was the center piece of our living room, my moms china cabinet played second fiddle (sic) . LOL .


Yep... when I was growing up the finest piece of furniture I ever saw was my parents "hi-fi" - an AM/FM/phono in an extraordinarily nice wooden cabinet with pretty decent speakers. Apparently I grew up on a wide range of classical music but my absolute favorite was Bizet's opera "Carmen".

Over time my tastes degraded/expanded to include things like "Witchy Woman", "Rock On" and "Monster Mash". I bet the 45's are still in the record drawer, will check next time I visit.

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Re: LFR180
Gr8_White_North #424254 03/19/17 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted By Socketman
" the stereo was the center piece of our living room"

Used to be in ours too.
They we moved, built a dedicated room, etc.
I'd like to have both. Keep the theater and have a nice pair upstairs.
Its kind of a double double wammy. I have nice speakers in a relatively noise resistant room (sound getting in was priority over sound getting out) but lost the ability to listen any and all the time.



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