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As you upgrade you'll have gear available for multiple setups.
House of the Rising Sone Out in the mid or far field Dedicated mid-woofers are over-rated
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Hello all, haven't been here in a few years but found this thread interesting. I am considering the purchase of a pair of M60ti. Sold my Studio 60's due to space limitation a few years ago when I bought my condo. The living room in the Condo was just too small and I was limited to 5.1 using Paradigm bookshelves for center, mains and rears. I've now sold the Condo and am moving into a Studio apartment, I'm hoping the M60ti as the new mains, will suffice in filling the larger living area and I can go back to a 7.1 system powered with my Anthem MRX500.
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Hello lucv13,
The early M60ti was kind of sibilant and harsh on female vocals and brass instruments. In double-blind tests when I worked for Axiom, I did not like them.
Later versions of the M60s got much smoother and better; in fact, before I retired from Axiom, I can recall a comment I made in double-blind listening tests at the factory: "This is a wonderful speaker." I don't know which version of the M60 was involved in the tests, but it's been a few years since I retired, so it was likely the v3 or v4. Ian would have the listening test records on file somewhere in his office.
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Thanks Alan, as it turns out I found a deal on a pair of Studio 80s over on CAM
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Hi Alan,
You mentioned that the M80ti had an edgy brash sibilance on brasses and many vocals, especially pop vocals, until Ian redesigned and tweaked the crossover. Could you please let me know which M80ti version addressed that issue?
Just found a great deal of M80ti.
Thanks.
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I believe the M80ti was the original iteration of the M80. I wonder if Ian would sell the upgraded cross-over for the M80Ti?
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Hi Rock, It was later during the production run of the M80ti that it received an upgrade, and no longer had the brash sibilance and edginess that I first objected to. It was still called the M80ti for a while longer, until it became the V1 or V2 (I can't recall which).
If you can get the serial numbers of the M80ti which you found a great deal on, and submit them to Axiom (Ian), he should be able to tell you whether the speakers in question have the tweaked crossover and improvements. The serial numbers are on a sticker on the rear panel below the "M80ti" designation. I'm still using a pair of the M80ti's that have the tweaked, improved crossover.
Alan
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Hello Alan
If the M80Tis do not have the upgraded x-over, can Axiom sell the better x-over for customer install?
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2X i think the older crossovers were part of the terminal cup whereas the newer models have the crossovers screwed to the inside of the speaker. Trust me they are a real beotch to get out of there, they are screwed on before the speaker is glued together. With a bit of skill you could modify things to add a more current crossover though its unknown by me if the drivers thiel/small parameters have changed. If the OP is not bothered by the sibilance alan speaks of then all this is really moot. i used a crossover design program to build crossovers for my home made speakers with axiom drivers and measured all the thiele small parameters then listened and changed things till i was happy. I dont know how they sound to anyone else but im happy LOL.
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