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Have you time aligned it with your mains at the crossover point? Makes a pretty big tactile difference at the crossover point if you are out of phase between transducers.
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No Trevor but then again, I've had that beast all over my room and besides, other subs I've had in there weren't time-aligned either.
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It's worth a try. Physical location affects the loading of the room but not latency. The amp/driver delay may have been more agreeable with your mains (by accident) with the other subs you messed with. The delay on the subs in my room is ~20ms (or 20ft) behind my mains without correction. Without correction they are over a full rotation behind the beat at 60hz and out of phase by 390 degrees lagging or so. This related to a 3db loss in-room. In a worse case scenario you could be down as much as 12db at the crossover frequency. No kick possible. ![smile smile](/boards/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Understood but then again, I can turn the gain on both my receiver and the 600 right up and still no kick! I remember when we were watching the WOTW pod emergency scene at your place and I had flappy pants and sore nuts. ![laugh laugh](/boards/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
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https://www.axiomaudio.com/deals/b-stock/1285there is your solution. snag it while you can.
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Trevor what sub/s are you running. Did you find that the DSpeaker improved midbass punch at all. I have a pair of 12's in my midsize car and a ton of power and they punch you but good . The 2 10's in my theater just dont have the midbass punch. I see many people on AVS building midbass modules to get that punch in the chest from the 100hz range. In my previous car i had a hatch and i faced a 10 towards the back of the car and that thing absolutely pounded, nice back massage ![smile smile](/boards/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) The bigger the room the more sub you need.
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I definitely would if I had the confidence that it would do the job.
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I definitely would if I had the confidence that it would do the job. No such thing as too many subs . Check out avs and look at building or buying a MB module and use a minidsp box to put a highpass filter on the low bass.
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House of the Rising Sone Out in the mid or far field Dedicated mid-woofers are over-rated
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Trevor what sub/s are you running. Did you find that the DSpeaker improved midbass punch at all. I have a pair of 12's in my midsize car and a ton of power and they punch you but good . The 2 10's in my theater just dont have the midbass punch. I see many people on AVS building midbass modules to get that punch in the chest from the 100hz range. In my previous car i had a hatch and i faced a 10 towards the back of the car and that thing absolutely pounded, nice back massage ![smile smile](/boards/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif) The bigger the room the more sub you need. I was running a pair of sealed SVS sb12-nsd subs in a 12x17 room. They loaded it hard. They would open the furnace access door and freak people out it was a ghost! ![laugh laugh](/boards/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) The DSPeaker improved clarity and reduced bloom at the expense of output. A better result with Dirac, although Dirac did properly time align the subs to mains which helped upper bass. In the current room at 14.5 x 22 the same subs do not load the space to nuts sore levels. The triplet LCR towers we built sure help though with upper bass output. (Just an excuse to sneak a pic in. Lol) Can feel gunshots in movies. ![](https://wavefrontacoustics.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Speaker-pose-sm.jpg)
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