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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427198 11/28/17 09:35 PM
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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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Originally Posted By Mojo
I don't see surge protection in the pdf below. Be aware that transient protectors can affect the dynamic power demanded by loads like subs and amps.

http://www.lutron.com/TechnicalDocumentLibrary/3691034.pdf


I spoke with Ian today on this and sees no issue at all with the outlet handling the sub demands. In fact he liked the idea of the Caseta Wireless system Lutron makes and my idea of using the programmed outlets to shut down whatever unit I select from the Pico remote. I guess it should be fine as the outlet is rated at 15 amps full service. I am going to try it out.

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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427200 11/28/17 10:48 PM
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"Simple protection" like MOVs and caps in parallel with the load won't affect dynamic power. More sophisticated protection, that incorporates filters in series with the load, can affect dynamic power. In your case, if there really is protection built into the unit, it is simple.

Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427202 11/29/17 01:56 AM
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Honestly, I doubt that there are any MOV's of subsistence in this device. MOV's which can handle major hits would not fit into this outlet. Worse yet, MOV's degrade with each hit and are not great as surge protection in long term use. I use a Brickwall now as my first line of defense as it doesn't degrade (in theory). My best defense is to unplug everything, it's not connected that way. And I am not very good at unplugging everything. I do unplug my very expensive amateur radio gear which is just too costly to keep replacing and it's connected to very high antenna's up on towers which love to attract hits. But I cannot remember to unplug it all smile

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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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I plan on putting a series MOV based surge unit after this outlet. That way the outlet with whatever surge protection it offers would be prior to a MOV protection device. Cheap insurance for the sub, but I am still not sure how well it might work.

My Brickwall surge units are extremely expensive and I am not in a position to be installing them at each outlet.

Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427204 11/29/17 03:46 AM
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Whole home surge protectors are not very expensive these days and given the money laid out on amps and such it would seem to be a really good investment


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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Slim, put those Ts up on the tower dude. Watch them ignite. Then you can get the fully actives. Do it man, do it!


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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427207 11/29/17 01:53 PM
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Got a crane? Man those T's are some heavy! It takes two people to handle them; they are up to my chest in height and must weigh 125 pounds each.... I recall the shipping weight of the pallet with the two speakers was around 300 pounds. They are almost 5 feet tall.

Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
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Re: Dual EP800 vs SVS Ultra 16
icehawk21 #427258 12/03/17 12:27 AM
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As big as they are; I still need subs in this room smile T's have output, but in a room which is about 10,000 cubic feet, I need the assistance of a low driver as I have learned over the past two weeks without my old Def Tech sub. Anxiously awaiting my new EP500. Will add in other subs around the room once I do some testing. I am thinking two more EP 500's or perhaps the EP600 with another 500, however I need to see how low, low is with the 500. I may not need the super low's. This place is all about music, not HT>>>


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