Re: Are You Kidding Me?
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TDIPablo, "noise" on a power line does not behave the way you think it does. It's quite possible for "noise" to be present at the point of common coupling between the utility and your house and to not be present upstream of that point. As far as cables go, one cable is not the same as another - they have different characteristics and those characteristics are very evident if you study them closely with the right equipment. Having said that, it's not at all obvious to me how those characteristics would result in sonic differences. Properly designed power supplies however, with filtering employed, do result in sonic differences because for one, they lower the noise floor.
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Re: Are You Kidding Me?
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Wow, I have trouble wrapping my brain around how power delivered over the last 3 feet thru an uber expensive cable of "better quality" than the 28 miles of cable between my house and the hydro electric damn is was generated from can be any better than a generic cable of the same quality of cable. It is probably fair to say that the long haul wiring is effectively thicker than the house wiring and the power cord simply because it runs at much higher voltages. That said, what I always struggle with is house wiring, which runs at the same voltage as the power cord and uses relatively thin (and cheap) wiring.
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No idea Pablo. Maybe romex is the best possible power cord material.
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two words
placebo effect
just say'n. Having a hard time with this one. I'd imagine people moving around the room would make more of a difference than the cables.
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And then you get to the power plug.. perhaps it was that he used a $9000 custom brain surgury grade outlet with 10 carrot gold contacts and zero oxygen screws. Those do make a big difference (to your bank account).
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...and the signal still goes through a rather cheap stranded 12-14 awg cable from the crossover to the drivers inside the speaker regardless of any other magic flux you use connecting them.
Nobody mentioned alcohol. Alcohol makes a difference.
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Nobody mentioned alcohol. Alcohol makes a difference.
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Not a lot of alcohol. The Montana PBNs use the highest quality internal components.
I use Acme Audio cryo treated silver wall outlets, about $60 each.
Folks, including me, did not expect to hear a noticeable difference from swapping power cords. EVERYONE heard the obvious improvement. The base line audio quality was very high. The improvement gained by using the Isotek was noticeable. The DIY cable's improvement was substantial. The cost in parts for the DIY cord is $500. Mine will be ready next week. I kept the Isoteks as well. I'll use them with the Bryston BDA 2 DAC.
Any member who finds himself in Southern California is welcome to hear the difference.
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Any member who finds himself in Southern California is welcome to hear the difference. Someday I'd want to try this. No room in my HT. Lots of room to swap cables, no room for people lol. I was going to add the only difference, and the reason I purchased name brand cables, is the quality of the connection. Never had an HDMI issue, never had problems with RCA/poor connection noise since. Factory provided power cables here, never had the opportunity to compare though, FWIW.
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I was planning to visit you about 8 years ago but family plans got in the way. I'm in Irvine for business from time-to-time so I'll try to make a point of contacting you.
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