Re: Deciding between M60 and M80
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If you are coming from a set of Cerwin Vega then you just haven't heard good clean sound. It is great to say you crank them loud, but until you get a good responsive speaker you just can't understand. True that. I would say, based on the CV specs I saw at the CV web site, Justin was listening to compression. He will experience a revelation with the v4.
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Re: Deciding between M60 and M80
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My point was more that the 100db request is based on a set of CV speakers. When you get a better cleaner sound, then the need for 100db to get the experience will not be there and likely only need 90 or 95db and will come away with the feeling that the speakers at that level are louder than what you were getting at 100db with the CV.
I have moved from a pretty good set of Energy C3 speakers that compared to the previous Celestian I had were the next level better. But running them side by side with the smaller Axiom M3 speakers, I swear that the Axiom sounds cleaner and louder even though an SPL meter reading will tell you otherwise.
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Re: Deciding between M60 and M80
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Yup. They'll sound louder than a typical SPL meter because the meter isn't fast enough to capture peaks. Aren't ear-brains amazing? I hope Justin will, eventually, only need 80 to 85dB average which will bring him to 100 to 105dB peaks. That's right in line with THX recommendations. From his posts though and subsequent correspondence, he needs to discover that for himself.
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Re: Deciding between M60 and M80
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Hello Guys thank you all again. Just to clarify a little, when it comes to music I listen to everything but mainly Country, 80's Hair bands and hiphop R&B which is where I mainly hit my 95-100db average well through my smartphone program and who knows how accurate that is. I understand that the Cv's where mainly boomy but I bought them to replace my Klipsch R-28F towers which sounded great but didn't have a bottem end which now I have a sub to fill that void and am hoping that I enjoy the sound of the M100's
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Re: Deciding between M60 and M80
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Justin, your old Klipsch are significantly more sensitive than the M100s. The spec sheet says so but so do my ears because I've spent some time with Klipsch speakers in the past. This means they go loud with relatively little power - and ultmately reach louder than the M100 if the Klipsch spec is accurate at 600W peak power which I assume is before compression sets in. This is largely a result of the tractrix horn. Unfortunately, this horn also makes them unlistenable.
I really don't want to influence you too much regarding the M100s. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the listening experience.
One other thing, dude. 95 to 100dB is dangerous for your ears. It's actually louder than what your phone app is reporting because the mic is dynamically limited and so is the frequency response.
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Re: Deciding between M60 and M80
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