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BTW Craig, I do this at work all the time. Customers give me solutions but they can't describe their problems. ![smile smile](/boards/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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You work at a massage parlor that specializes in happy endings?
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Long days at the dealership are leading to some wild fantasies, eh? ![smile smile](/boards/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Doubling your watts only gives you 3dB increase, crap, just had a JohnK memory. ![smile smile](/boards/images/graemlins/default/smile.gif)
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Randy, that is correct. I have always been suspicious of more and more and more power. What are we really after with more power/what are we trying to solve? And at what point does it become unsafe?
These active LFRs are making me re-think everything about audio. I can have a completely engaging and soulful emotional experience at lower volumes.
I appeal to Axiom to introduce this technology to a more affordable line so that more consumers can engage in bliss. As to what subset of bliss a smaller speaker can produce relative to the LFR1100, I don't know.
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Mojo....When I initially was deciding what components and speakers I wanted to get..I decided to spend the majority of the money on speakers...hence why I bought the low-end Denon. Had I known (my fault for not doing proper research) it didn't have pre-amp jacks..I would have bought the next model up that did. I guess the way I'm thinking about it..is that the 95w per channel..2 channels driven that my x2300 has.. just doesn't have the kick to get the most from the 5 speakers that I have it running. I've heard my uncles system..basically the same set-up as I have except he has q10s...receiver/amp..and the sound he gets is just "better"...fuller..for a lack of a better term...I've only recently gotten in higher end audio stuff...so not sure what terms to describe mid range punch etc. Thinking of either another Denon or Marantz around the 500-600 range...and looking at an Outlaw 5000 5x120w amp for around 620.
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Now we're getting somewhere, Eric. Your uncle has QS10s! Read my QS10 product review. And know that my buddy, who is no different than you in his audio journey, has been listening to my QS10s since I got them and it's finally clicked for him that he needs them over his Klipsches. So he bought them. And he will drive them with his bottom-of-the-barrel Denon. And he will be happy.
I'd do the QS8 to QS10 trade-in first and then go from there. Of course if you can afford new separates, go for it.
For me, the QS10 upgrade, driven from my Onk, was bigger than the amps. In order of importance for me, for movies, it was as follows: 600v2 to 800v4 and almost a tie with 150v2 to 160v4, QS8v2 to QS10, amps, fronts. Know that for movies, M3s are really all I need; they don't see much action. I'm in a 4200 cu.ft room BTW.
I take it your M80s are v4?
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Mojo...I'm not sure if I have v4 or not...I looked on my invoice and on the back of my speakers and I can't find a tag that says what version they are. Also..when I listened to my uncles system, he had qs8s...but traded them in on the qs10s...I actually have my uncles qs8s that he traded. The last time I visited he had the qs10s installed..and they sound killer!
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