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Each LFR1500 will have 7 driver arrays hence the need for 14 channels of amplification. The LFR1900 will require 18 channels.

One of my buddies was over last night to listen to the M2OW and actives. He's also familiar with the M3 and M50 sound. His mind was shattered to discover what these diminutive speakers are capable of. In his words, the M2s are not as detailed as the actives but more detailed than M3s or M50s. This quality makes them very enjoyable with no listening fatigue.

My terribly dimensioned living room with what I thought was an acoustically horrible bow window has been consecrated with the M2s and is now hallowed ground.

I wonder if they have any of the qualities of a baffless speaker

Yes. They both make sound.

Oh, thanks

Always willing to educate.

I watched Late Phases tonight...without a center. I found I enjoyed it more without the 160 than with. This is very surprising. Even more surprising was being able to sit 20 degrees off-axis on one side and 30 degrees on the other and still enjoy a diffuse (relative to the 160) yet convincing center image. I have no idea why this is the case particularly when I've tried muting the center a number of times in the past and found I hated it.

I'm going to experiment with this some more. BTW, I watched this movie at -35 from 15 feet away and missed absolutely nothing. I had a couple of pocket knives come off the wall in the living room from the bass. I had to turn it down when I muted the center but even so, I noticed quite a bit more bass with the center de-activated.

I've been watching Eagles Farewell Tour I today with my friend. From the MLP, there's no question it's better without my 160. But when I shift off-center, the center image shifts. For example, when I sit 30 degrees to the left, the center image shifts to the mid-point between the left LFR and the 160. This isn't something I like but I can see that one could get used to it. My friend on the other hand, prefers that image shift and says it sounds more natural.

We've also been experimenting with no QS10s and Stereo PCM vs. DTS. Perhaps it's no surprise but DTS is far more dynamic and clear.

What is most surprising is that we both prefer the QS10s off. So DTS but with actives and subs only. I estimate I have a 140 degree sound field with the QS10s off and it sounds more natural.

I'll also point out there's a big difference in the quality and quantity of bass with the twin 500s fed off the twin DSPs as opposed to just routing all the bass through the 800.

I'm not saying the QS10s aren't useful for music but this Eagles concert sounds better without them.

I'm a big fan of stereo over using the surrounds for music ... I've just never heard anything which sounded natural with the surrounds in the mix no matter what surround format I've tried. Perhaps it's because all the music I have listen to was recorded for 2 channels ... hmmmm ....

For movies the surrounds are highly recommended if not a must.

I've found, in my environment, it depends on the track. With the one below for example, I get a very natural 180 degree sound field in Neo or PLII. In stereo, the sound field is closer to 120 degrees with the actives at normal volumes and 140 degrees at louder volumes.

I find PLII and Neo can sound quite natural in my space because the QS10s are mounted 4 feet ahead of my MLP. When they were mounted directly opposite my ears, it was too much of an unnatural wrap-around effect.

https://open.spotify.com/track/3cjfsbCvz9dGaSt1F9jKNl?si=7SqhoTYnSZKSZKpRnfGwZw