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Take careful note of the width and depth of the soundstage. Where does it start and end? And where the images are and their size. What lies between the images? Do you hear speakers or just sounds? Increase and lower the volume and note perceptual differences in all the above.

Use this track:

https://open.spotify.com/track/7H5Wi6MFbJHDg8Fquml1sF?si=jhPWKVSOTjW6OsxUhKopzw

You may want to start keeping notes and sketches in a notebook. This way, when you upgrade, you can compare.

Ok that’s a great track!!! I feel like I’m Martin Sheen in the West Wing in a video montage.

I like the notebook idea. I’m starting to lose track of my different songs and test tracks. I need to up my game with my playlists too and keep it dialed. Time for some headphone time and Spotify playlist organization.

I listened to “ Vogue “. (As mentioned by Mojo. Nice track as well!!
“ Rain “ ( Madonna ) is also incredible and well recorded. The low tone harmonies are really spectacular!!!!!

https://open.spotify.com/track/3b3PnE1ROIZzILjmCGjVib?si=hpi5zcnKSP6mJ4JpABD8rA

This cover of “ Wish you were here” by Tangerine Dream

https://open.spotify.com/track/3cHjZMewXHg1MTjGX4Z2vr?si=J-JXHC-AQXSPTTuBGVMHAw

is off the hook spacious!!!! This extends beyond my walls. !!! It’s my first time really hearing that tremendous width. The depth dimension seems to be harder to achieve though. Having my m60s away from the wall and closer together and out of my quasi alcove makes ALL the difference.

Seems like I need lists of tracks that showcase depth. And another for mid range prowess. Bass etc. Oh geez I’m such a dork with this stuff. Can’t help it though. It’s so much fun!!

The so-called West Wing track I posted has outstanding depth!

You did well to move them out into the room. The fewer reflections from the wall between and behind the speakers, the more depth you'll hear. Diffuse reflections work well too. Unfortunately, ti and v2 dont do depth well. V3 is likely much better with v4 being likely the best it's ever going to get with passive Millenias. The actives are even better yet.

The Tangerine Dream track is very nice. One thing you may not be able to hear on your M60ti is the very low thrum of bass. It saturates my entire room with fluid transparency.

I should clarify, there is depth, but it’s lacking. I guess I should say it doesn’t match the truly grand spread of the width. It’s like there’s an itch there I can’t scratch. Im wantzing the depth to be equal to the width. But I’m so mesmerized by the holographic width i quickly forget about the depth. It’s still a novelty that width. It’s really cool. I look at the speakers to get some indication the sound is coming from them but I can’t sense that the sound is coming from them. However if I move more off axis the illusion crumbles.

Hmmm. I’ll listen on my headphones later and see if I can pickup on the thrumming you are referring to on the Tangerine Track. I can hear a reverbing wave in that song but I bet I’m only getting a small spectrum of it’s sound.

I have no doubt I’m trying to squeeze every last drop of performance I can out of these m60. It’s the little things too. Closing my heavy curtains makes a difference for example. Stacking pillows into one the empty corners helps too. I might be crazy , ( placebo effect?) but if the house warm and cozy versus chilly , things sound like they have more punch and depth ? and well...... warmth. I’m just reporting my opinion here. It might be all in my head.

I think we’ve talked about this before too re: tweeter being warm and sounding better.

Im wrong, the reverb I’m hearing is a synthesizer effect. Not the bass strumming. Will report back more when I get headphones on.

Edit: There’s an incredible amount of layers of sounds in this song / version. It’s so dam good. Beautiful.

Edit 2: This is an incredible band. Check out their wiki. Spotify never ceases to amaze me with the music I find. What a history this group has. Amazing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangerine_Dream

It's really cool you're noticing all these details.

Temperature definitely affects the sound. Good for you for noticing.

I like that Kodiak! that was fun

Rebulx, your welcome! I’m working on a short list of my Favorite “ spacious “ soundstage tracks. I’m really addicted to this image presentation. It’s amazing. Seems live recordings done a particular way have more success with this. I’m not sure what the technique is in the recording of it or mastering? ( terminology...) but there’s a special sauce to some tracks that just open up and PRESENT in a spectacular fashion.

Kodiak, you may want to read this:

https://theproaudiofiles.com/width-height-depth-in-a-mix/#:~:text=By%20creating%20contrast%20in%20the,the%20whole%20mix%20will%20expand