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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #439079 10/14/20 11:26 PM
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Rather drink my whiskey and ginger and let you do the math smile

Re: M100s?
Mojo #439080 10/14/20 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
If you set some small speakers to large, and then play a bit louder than normal, you can ignite them or destroy their spiders. That's what happened to my Dreamcatchers.
Now you know why they call them Dreamcatchers ...

Re: M100s?
rrlev #439082 10/15/20 12:14 AM
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Yup! They are rated "20-80W recommended amplification" but they can only take 30W peaks before they dynamically compress. And don't you dare put less than 40Hz into them because they go THWAAAPSNAAAP.

The M2v4, which sounds far better in all respects, and costs less today than Dreamcatchers did in 2010, can take 240W peaks from my Pioneer which I love so much but according to JohnK I am not supposed to, and not even blink. The M2v4 with a couple of sealed subs is all most audio lovers need but they'll never know it because bigger is supposedly always better.

Keep living the good life over there. Have a whiskey and ginger for me. I can't afford it because I just bought 4 subs and still have two more to go.

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Re: M100s?
Rebulx #439086 10/15/20 01:59 AM
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Dreamcatchers are the lower end of the line. The Mani 2's I had were one of the best sounding speakers I have ever heard. I drove them with VBA, Robertson and another amp I cannot recall - all well over 200 watts - with any problems.

Damn I miss those speakers!

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Rebulx #439088 10/15/20 02:16 AM
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This is why they sounded so good. Apparently very low and linear extension and high dynamic capability to boot.

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Rebulx #439089 10/15/20 02:22 AM
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I can tell you it was a major difference in the clarity on the Studio 80s. Set to small and the sub back to lfe-main and increase the x-over on the sub to 100. Still need more subs to fill out the room. Would a 600 be noticeably different than the 500?


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Re: M100s?
Mojo #439090 10/15/20 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mojo
Yup! They are rated "20-80W recommended amplification" but they can only take 30W peaks before they dynamically compress. And don't you dare put less than 40Hz into them because they go THWAAAPSNAAAP.
Can't imagine a speaker which would blow because you drove it at less then 40Hz ... now if you told me it blew because the amp was in clip ...

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At lower than 40Hz, the coil former was smacking into the backplate. It didn't blow. Eventually though I got tired of not being able to listen to them loud enough so I cooked them. Now the coil scrapes inside its gap.


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Canesfan27 #439092 10/15/20 04:06 AM
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Canes, the 600 goes about 10Hz lower than the 500. I won't have mine for another month. But its performance would be somewhat equal to my 800. It just can't go as loud. That 10Hz doesn't sound like much but it makes a tactile difference and renders the bass more transparent and room-filling.

Have you tried the linear/boost switch yet?


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Rebulx #439093 10/15/20 09:45 AM
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Yes I’ve tried the boost switch. I’m still messing with the avr settings to try to get everything dialed in.


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